Arushi Talwar (Aarushi Talwar) news: Hemraj body mutilated
By Clarencia Cynrae on May 17th, 2008Arushi Talwar, 14, was stabbed dead in her house in Sector 25, Noida. Arushi Talwar was in her bedroom. Arushi Talwar could have died from deep stab wounds.
Arushi Talwar was found dead by her father, Rajesh Talwar. Arushi Talwar was discovered dead only in the morning of Friday, May 16, 2008, as her father Rajesh Talwar went to awaken her. The Talwar family’s domestic man-maid, Hemraj, was missing. Police suspected him immediately. There was a reward of Rs. 20,000 for information on him. His full name was Yam Prasad Banjade alias Hemraj.
One day passed before Hemraj was found. Senior police officer K.K. Gautam, a neighbor, visited the Talwar family to offer condolences. His cop instincts led him to investigate the roof top terrace.
The door was locked from the inside of the house so he broke the lock. Imagine his horror when he saw the dead body of Hemraj. There was a long trail of blood. There were signs that the body was dragged by one or more people. There were no blood stains on the staircase. Police assumed Hemraj was killed on the terrace.
K.K. Gautam said that he saw some clues in Arushi Talwar’s bedroom. However, he did not reveal the full extent of what he understood he saw. Police investigations were on-going and details could not be revealed for fear of hampering the investigation.
Both Arushi Talwar and Hemraj had slit throats.
SP (City) Mahesh Kumar Mishra has been transferred after the foul up in the investigation.
Arushi Talwar.
Hemraj. Yam Prasad Banjade alias Hemraj. (From Nepal)
Dr. Rajesh Talwar works at Fortis Hospital in Noida. Arushi Talwar’s mother, Dr. Nupur Talwar, runs a dental clinic.
Arushi Talwar was a Class IX student of Delhi Public School in Noida.
Arushi Talwar’s body was prepared for her last rites. Many pall bearers carried her body respectfully out of the house.
Another pic.
Arushi Talwar & Yam Prasad Banjade alias Hemraj,
RIP.
Updated May 19 2008.
Hemraj’s son-in-law, Jeevan Sharma, was a suspect. The house was not broken into. The post mortems had determined that Arushi Talwar and Hemraj were murdered by the same weapon. Police said that the killer was an expert and had a steady hand on the knife.
A former domestic helper, Vishnu, was a prime suspect too. Vishnu used to offer Hemraj as a replacement helper when he took annual leave of 2 months each year. Eight months ago, when Hemraj was hired to replace Vishnu, Hemraj became a permanent employee of the Talwars. When Vishnu returned, he found that he was out of a job. Vishnu could have a motive for the double killing to exact revenge. Police were still investigating.
Vishnu’s full name is Vishnu Sharma alias Vishnu Thapa.
On the same morning of the murders, another part time maid, Bharti, arrived at the house to work. Bharti found the gate locked on the outside of the house. Madam Dr. Niranjan threw down the keys from her balconey and the maid opened the gate to enter the compound.
So far, police have interviewed all the domestic maids, past and present. They had also questioned both parents’ staff at their offices.
A ‘mystery scrapper’ visited Arushi Talwar’s Orkut profile regularly. This internet identity reminded her about murder victims over the internet sites.
The forensic science police revealed that the autopsy of Arushi Talwar found semi-digested food in her stomach. It indicated that she had a late dinner. It was estimated that her last meal was at 11 pm.
The autopsy on Hemraj told that his stomach had liquid contents. The fluid was identified as alcohol. Police made enquiries and established that he was a frequent drinker of liquor.
Police were working on the theory that Vishnu retuned to plead to get his old job back. The Talwars refused to hire him since they already had Hemraj to help them. Vishnu killed Hemraj. Vishnu could have realized that Arushi was in the house and she knew or saw him commit a crime. He could have killed Arushi to silence her. Police said they were searching for accomplices.
Police have reconstructed the case on the eve or night of the murder. The parents of Aarushi Talwar returned home at 10 pm. The parents and Aarushi Talwar sat down to have dinner at 10:30 pm or approximately that time. A courier arrived with a package. It contained a video camera. It was a special gift to Aarushi Talwar from her parents to celebrate a surprise gift. Aarushi Talwar had expressed her delight upon receipt of her gift. At 11:15, Dr. Niranjan went to Aarushi Talwar’s room to seek help to get an internet connection. That was the last time the mother saw her daughter alive.
The next morning, at around 6 am, when Aarushi Talwar’s father went to his daughter’s bedroom, she was already found dead. When the Talwars failed to locate Hemraj, they dialed his cell phone. They said the line was cut. Police said that they have verified the existence of this call. They identified the area where the call was made but what about the area where the call was transmitted and received at the point it was cut? The suspected killer had removed Hemraj’s phone while he had died on the terrace roof top of the house.
Corrections:
At a later date and time, Dr. Nupur Talwar gave an interview to the media. She said that the courier came on Thur. May 15 in the morning, around 10 am. The gift was a digital camera and not a video camera.
Updated Wednesday May 21 2008.
The Talwars’ garage outside the house was raided and sealed in the afternoon. Some journalists claimed a foul smell was emitted from the garage. The garage housed the couple’s clinic previously in 2005 – 2006.
Dr. Niranjan and Dr. Rajesh Talwar have refused to give any statements to the media. Dr. Rajesh Talwar said that his comments could harm him.
Hemraj’s cell phone call records.
Call records of Hemraj /Banjade indicated that the last call was made to the phone at 6 am, Friday. The number which originated the call (0120-4316388) was traced to a PCO booth in Nithari village. The lady owner of the shop was also questioned on Wednesday, May 21, 2008.
The owner could not identify the person who made the call. It lasted 400 seconds. This indicated that someone had received a call on Banjade’s phone after he was killed.
Arushi Talwar’s father or (both parents), claimed that he made a call to Hemraj’s cell phone after they could not locate him in the house. Telecommunication officials said that no calls were made from the Talwar house to Hemraj’s phone on that fateful morning.
A newspaper quoted the chief investigating officer boasting that the police have sufficient leads to break this mystery in the next 24 hours.
Police said that on Thusday night at 9 – 9:30 p.m., Arushi Talwar spoke to her friend Anmol from her mobile phone. The phone companies have released the details of the calls. The cell phones of both Arushi and Hemraj were still missing.
Arushi Talwar – 9910520630.
Hemraj – 9213515485.
People should report if they have received calls from these two numbers as the cell phones could be sold to unsuspecting individuals.
There were conflicting reports on the post mortem results of the victims. One media report said there was no alcohol found in the stomach of Hemraj. The common agreement on the post mortem on Aarushi was that she had eaten a few hours before getting murdered as her stomach contained partially digested food. So, she was killed between Thursday May 15, 11:15 pm and 6 am, Friday, May 16. The common ground that was shared in the press was the police autopsy that declared Aarushi had no indications of sexual assault.
Both Arushi Talwar and Hemraj had similar wounds on their necks which were probably caused by a surgical scapel. Police know doctors are handy with surgical instruments and incisions.
On Wednesday, it was established that the authorities incharge of the twin murder cases were Senior Superintendent of Police Noida A.S. Ganesh, Special Task Force (STF) and a few others.
Superintendent of Police (City) Mahesh Mishra was transferred out on Sunday afternoon, May 18, 2008. The station house officer of Sector-20 police station of Noida was also transferred out.
The full adddress of the murdered victims was released in the hope that the public can come forward to offer information on L-32 Jal Vayu Vihar home in Sector-25, Noida.
Rajesh Talwar gave a different version in his story. He said he got up to open the gate to a part time domestic maid that had just arrived. The maid, Bharti, said that the Madam Dr. Niranjan had tossed down the keys from the balconey. Bharti opened the gate, not Dr Rajesh Talwar.
Rajesh Talwar and Dr. Niranjan have refused to answer questions, dodged questions, or replied vaguely.
Updated on Wednesday May 21 2008.
Police examined the cell phone records of Aarushi Talwar and Dr. Rajesh Talwar. Dr. Rajesh Talwar made 197 phone calls to a woman, who has been identified as a lady doctor friend. On Thursday night, Rajesh Talwar made 6 calls to this woman.
Rajesh Talwar’s driver, Umesh, said that Dr. Rajesh Talwar did not go to work on Thursday. Yet, earlier reports said that the parents returned home at 10 pm.
Umesh said that he was instructed by Rajesh to carry Aarushi’s bloodstained mattress to the terrace and leave it there. Umesh carried it with the help of Vikas, the clinic manager.
Arushi Talwar’s friends said that Arushi appeared to be perfect on the superficial level. Arrushi Talwar received text messages from her own friends and she would call them back on her cell phone. Police said that they had spoken to these people.
Aarushi Talwar an a profile at Orkut. She described herself as being friendly. She had discussed the usual teen issues like dating, breaking up, and hanging out.
Noida’s SP (City), Ashok Tripathi said that his police raided Dr. Rajesh Talwar’s makeshift clinic on Tuesday, May 20, 2008. Some news reported that this clinic was un-used and re-converted into a garage. Some reports said this was still a temporary makeshift clinic.
Dr. Rajesh Talwar’s temporary clinic/ garage outside his house.
Officers found some things and removed them but refused to disclose what they found.
Aarushi’s father, Rajesh Talwar, has made a statement to the media. He said that he was not involved in the murders.
Police have questioned Sameer Tipnis. He is Arushi’s maternal uncle, who is currently based in Dubai. Police thought that he held some clues that were crucial to the case. An uncle in Dubai …
Arushi Talwar.
There was also some disturbing information about the eve of the murder. Arushi Talwar was beaten on that night. Yet she received a camera on the same night. Punishment and incentive went hand in hand in the house.
Thursday, May 22, 2008.
It is now 7 days since the double murders were discovered on Friday, May 16, 2008. There were no new reports even at the end of Thursday.
Friday, May 23, 2008.
According to ibnlive:
Noida Senior Superintendent of Police A Satish Ganesh gave a press conference on Thursday, May 22, 2008. He said that it would take another 15 more days for the police to crack the case. He appealed for the media to help the police. He said the police were exploring the motives of crime of passion and honor killing. One person was killed in a fit of anger in a crime of passion. Another person was killed to silence him/her as an honor klling.
The police forensic/ coroner did a visual check on Aarushi’s corpse and said that there was no sexual assault but they did not do the slide test.
(What’s a slide test in police terminology? Can it be assumed that it is a swab of the body fluids to determine the composition of the internal fluids?)
This was revealed by another one of the police officers. He implied that the slide test was an option to discover more information. The body has been cremated. There is no more chance of checking for more information.
If anyone is brave enough, has concrete evidence, and does not fear retaliations, please go forward.
Updated on Friday, May 23, 2008.
Sify News said that Arushi Talwar’s friend, Anmol, was interrogated on Thursday. Phone records showed that they had talked 688 times in the past month; between April 1 and May 15.
Ibn live said that police used a Honda Civic car to transport the Talwars and an uncle to an undisclosed location but gave up after the media started following them. The place was rumored to be Haridwar.
Updated Friday 23, 2008.
Express India online said:
Dr. Rajesh Talwar has been arrested. Police suspect that his daughter, Arushi, knew about her father’s extra-marital affair and she was close to Hemraj and he could have known about it too.
Dr. Nupur Talwar, also a dentist, and Rajesh Talwar’s doctor colleague, Dr. Anita Durrani, may have been detained.
Police wish to bring Dr Rajesh Talwar to the place where he disposed the murder weapon in order to recover it. There could also be a hammer involved.
Updated.
Mynews reported that Rajesh Talwar has confessed to police about the double murders. The motive was because Arushi Talwar knew about her father’s illicit affair with another woman. Arushi Talwar used to talk to Hemraj about it. Later, Arushi Talwar became intimate with Hemraj.
Updated.
ExpressIndia said:
Police said that Dr Rajesh Talwar used to bring Anita Durrani into his house when his wife was out. The servants knew about this. Hemraj told Aarushi Talwar.
On Thursday night, Rajesh Talwar went into his daughter Aarushi’s room and discovered Hemraj there. Rajesh Talwar supposedly asked Hemraj to go upstairs to the terrace. Rajesh brought along a hammer and surgical knife. Rajesh Talwar hit Hemraj on the head and then slit his throat.
That took about half an hour. Then, Rajesh Talwar went downstairs to his Aarushi Talwar’s room and killed her in the same way with the hammer and knife. His wife was still in her bedroom.
Dr Nupur Talwar and “close” friends Prafful and Anita Durrani were all questioned by police.
Besides Hemraj, and other workers at the clinic of Dr. Rajesh Talwar also knew about the alleged affair. Jeevan Sharma and Krishna were among two of the several workers who had told police about their employer’s affair. Jeevan Sharma and Krishna also revealed that Hemraj had confided in them. Hemraj was afraid that Dr Rajesh Talwar might kill him becasue he was already scolded by the doctor for talking about his illicit relations.
Arushi Talwar supposedly confronted her father about his relationship with the other woman. She had objected to it.
There were conflicting reports from media. Some press reports wrote that Rajesh Talwar had confessed. Some wrote that he protested his innocence. Rajesh Talwar said that a man called Dinesh Verma framed him for the murders.
Yam Prasad Banjade alias Hemraj’s body was undiscovered when two men (Rajesh Talwar’s workers) brought the mattress up to the terrace because it was hidden. A cooler lid had been placed over the body.
Updated Saturday, May 24, 2008.
Anita Durrani & Praful Durrani.
TimesNow said:
Anita Durrani & Praful Durrani denied any involvement in the case. Anita Durrani denied sharing any illicit romance with Rajesh Talwar. Anita Durrani & Praful Durrani were close to the Talwars because Anita Durrani shared the dental clinic with Rajesh Talwar.
TimesNow has caught Anita Durrani saying a contradictory statement that might prove she was embarassed, forgetful or confused. Police said thye had recorded her statements after questioning. Anita Durrani said she was never interviewed by the police. Now, who should the reader believe?
Anita Durrani said that Arushi and her daughter were close friends. She said that if Aarushi was having close relations with Hemraj, then certainly Aarushi would have told her daughter and she, the mother, would also get to know about it.
Anita Durrani said that she and Nupur were good friends. Those 197 calls were between her good girlfriend Dr. Nupur and herself. Dr. Nupur could have borrowed her husband Rajesh Talwar’s cell phone to use to talk to her. That was how Dr. Anita Durrani explanied the hundred over calls to her cell phone.
The Durranis and Talwars were good friends for over 13- 14 years. They were like an extended family. On Thursday or Friday, the day of the murder, Anita Durrani said she was in Dehradun.
A police officer had collected evidence from the rooftop terrace of the Talwar house.
KK Gautam, retired police officer, found Hemraj’s boody on the terrace.
Another news report by Sify said that Dr Nupur Talwar supported her husband. She protested that Rajesh Talwar was innocent of the crime he has been accused of. She said that the real killer was still roaming about freely.
Rajesh Talwar and his lawyer have applied for bail.
MSN news said that Abhijeet Chatterjee, Talwar’s lawyer, had said that there was no evidence linking Rajesh Talwar to the crime. No case under section 302 (murder) of Indian Penal Code (IPC) could be made against Rajesh Talwar.
Rajjesh Talwar has serious asthma and was bound to suffer in jail. Abhijeet Chatterjee has applied for bail for his client. The hearing would be on Monday.
Updated Sunday, May 25, 2008.
By Delhi Newsline:
Police said they obtained proof. Rajesh Talwar & Nupur Talwar told the priest in Hardwar to record Arushi Talwar’s time of death as 2:30 am, on Friday morning, May 16, 2008.
These parents told police they discovered Aarushi Talwar’s body at 6:30 am Friday morning. Police learnt about the actual hour of Arushi’s death about 3-4 days after Friday. Police placed the death at between 1 am – 2 am. They said they were surprised that the Talwars knew about it before the police did.
Police questioned Rajesh Talwar based on facts obtained from his celle phone line provider. Rajesh denied receiving calls on Thursday, May 15. Police said this raised serious issues regarding his credibility.
Police tapped the phone lines. They claimed that Rajesh Talwar spoke to his lawyer about bail. He anticipated going to jail even before he was arrested. He spoke to his lawyer on getting bail for him.
On Saturday, May 24, it was Arushi Talwar’s birthday.
Indian Express said:
Phone records on Arushi Talwar’s calls indicated that she received calls/ text messages every night and the latest time was about 1 am. However, on the night she died, her cell phone records indicated she had no phone activity after 9:10 pm. Police speculated on a variety of reasons-
1) Arrushi’s cell phone was switched off.
2) Aarushi’s cell phone battery died.
3) Arushi’s cell phone was removed from her.
Arushi Talwar’s cell phone and Hemraj’s cell phone are missing.
Different media have reported different dates for Arushi Talwar’s birthday. She wrote a message in her school. It was at the window pane where she sat in class. It asked for birthday wishes.
Dear Arushi Talwar,
Happy Birthday 2008.
Dr Nupur Talwar visited her husband in prison. Dinesh Talwar, Rajesh’s brother, accompanied Nupur Talwar on this visit. They had proclaimed that Rajesh Talwar was innocent.
Updated Monday morning in India, May 26, 2008.
Hindustan Times:
Rajesh Talwar.
Police have applied to a court for permission to use the narco analysis test on Rajesh Talwar. It involves the use of chemicals to lower the resistance and make the person talk.
Police want this list of missing people & items:
1. Vishnu Thapa and Krishna, 2 suspects, are missing. They were present only for the first interviews.
2. Arushi Talwar’s cell phone.
3. Hemraj’s mobile phone.
4. Rajesh Talwar’s clothes worn on Thursday/ Friday; on the day the murders took place.
Police have seized computer hardware of Rajesh Talwar & Arushi Talwar for computer forensic investigation. All deleted data can be recovered via software recovery system.
Similarly, Orkut may cooperate with the police to retrieve all deleted data that pertained to Aarushi Talwar’s communications.
Some evidence did not collaborate with the accusation against Rajesh Talwar. The police said they found 3-4 glasses that were used to drink alcohol. That night, the adults in the house that might have used the receptacles were Rajesh Talwar, Nupur Talwar, Hemraj. Who was the fourth person to have used the glass? Or, could one person use a clean glass each time he/she wanted to consume an alcoholic drink?
Police claimed that they had records or evidence showing that Rajesh Talwar answered Hemraj’s phone at a certain time after his death. Then, the call was cut off.
Updated Monday evening India, May 26, 2008.
The Hindu reported that Rajesh Talwar’s brother, Dr. Dinesh Talwar, proclaimed that Rajesh was 100% innocent and that would be proven in the court of law. Dr. Dinesh Talwar had visited his brother in prison.
When police visited Talwar’s house on Wednesday last week, the media was present. Neighbors had gathered around outside.
Updated Tuesday, May 27, 2008.
ibn live reported:
Hemraj’s uncle, Ram Prasad, said that nobody should accuse Hemraj of immorality. He was dead and unable to defend his honor. Uncle Ram Prasad said that Hemraj was about 46 or 47 years old. He had a son-in-law, Jeeva, (or Jeevan) and a wife and young children. Uncle Ram Prasad said that character assassination of the dead was low. Ram Prasad said that Arushi was a child at 14. To instigate that she was compromising in morality was incredible.
Jeeva said that Hemraj called him at 5:30 on Thursday. He told that his madam (Dr. Nupur Talwar) had instructed hm not to go to the clinic, as per his normal routine, since Arushi was home alone.
Uma Thakur, the social worker, said that Hemraj approached her on May 11, 2008. Hemraj desired to consult her on a matter. He requested for an hour of audience with her. She told him that she was busy at that time of 7:30 pm. Uma Thakur related that Hemraj looked frightened. The press repeated this claim and asociated this with Hemraj reportedly telling a few friends that he feared for his life. It was rumored that he had gossiped about the relationships of Rajesh Talwar and was afraid of repercussions.
Umar Thakur claimed that she had spoken to Hemraj’s son-in-law. She claimed that the younger man told her that Hemraj and Arushi shared a normal relationship and there was nothing improper about them.
Uma Thakur.
Hindustan Times reported:
Senior prosecution official P.C. Srivastava said that from May 16 to 23, Rajesh Talwar had traveled to various places, including Haridwar. Ths Tuesday, the court will decide if Rajesh would be remanded into state custody or police custody, or released on bail
Dr. Dinesh Talwar warned that his brother was contemplating suicide.
Updated Tuesday, May 27, 2008.
The Hindu website said that on Tuesday, Arushi Talwar’s classmates and friends organized a peaceful candlight procession. They walked from DPS Noida to her house. That was a distance of 1 1/2 kilometers. The students said nobody close to Arushi was questioned by the police. The teens said that instead of investigations, the police were the laying the blame on the dead, who could not utter a single defence.
Arushi Talwar’s best friend Fiza said that police were defaming Arushi Talwar without owning evidence.
The media at The Telegraph wrote that Arushi Talwar’s maternal grandparents lived in Noida. Her parents re-settled in Noida to be near the maternal grandparents.
Arushi Talwar’s parents are highly educated, VIP connected, held high posts, networked with politicians and respected. Nothing can rock their boat. The media suggested that no matter what the circus showed, the end would be the same.
Updated, India’s Wednesday, May 28, 2008, The Times Of India:
Pinaki Mishra, another Talwar family lawyer, has requested for the case to be handled by CBI (crime branch investigation?) because he was dissatisfied. Pinaki Mishra claimed Police made Rajesh Talwar a scapegoat.
Pinaki Mishra said that on Tuesday, May 27, 2008, when the case was brought to court, there was a lawyers’ strike that was on-going and the defence lawyers were banned from arguing their case. As a consequence, Rajesh Talwar has been handed over to the police for a 3 day custody period. Pinaki Mishra said he feared for the welfare of Rajesh Talwar.
Mr. Pinaki Mishra:
Updated, Times Now said:
Meanwhile, the brother, Dinesh Talwar, has appealed to the media to exert influence and pressure to press for an impartial hearing into the case against Rajesh Talwar.
Press Trust Of India reported:
Women and Child Development Minister Renuka Chowdhary today said that police who made statements on Arushi Talwar that did character assassination are liable to to be punished for defamation and insulting the modesty of a woman.
Minister Renuka Chowdhary said she would speak to Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mayawati and ask her to look into the matter once the Ministry get the details.
Updated from Times Now:
Police made some inconsistent statements.
- They made controversial declarations on who was the first victim in the twin murder.
- They said Hemraj was taken to the terrace before being stabbed. However, the trail of blood started on the stairs.
- They made a confession supposedly extracted from the accused.
- Their suspect claimed being framed and he did not confess to any murders.
- They had no proof on the status of the relationship between Hemraj and Arushi Talwar.
The finger prints on the cooler lid that covered Hemraj were not disclosed. The same went for the finger prints on the wall at the terrace.
Updated on Friday, May 30, 2008.
The Times Of India:
The newspaper said that the police of Uttar Pradesh have leaked transcripts of Arushi Talwar’s communication with 3 boys. They refused to publish the transcripts because they cited that it was a invasion of privacy.
The press said that these actions came with the offered suggestions that the Arushi Talwar was loose. She asked her father to allow her to do something for one more time. It was hinted that the father and the friends were all loose.
Updated Friday, May 30, 2008.
PTI Dentist Rajesh Talwar, was sent to judicial custody till June 2, 2008. A court in Noida exercised this ruling after the expiry of his three-day police remand.
Updated India’s Saturday, May 31, 2008.
The Hindu reported that the police will not seek to extend Rajesh Talwar’s remand. He was handed over to the jail officers and has to complete 7 more days imprisonment. On Monday, June 2, the police might apply for court permission to administer narco tests, and brain mapping tests on Rajesh Talwar because he did not cooperate during routine police interrogations.
Police have not found the murder weapon or blood stained clothes.
Updated Saturday, May 31, 2008.
ibnlive said:
Poliec pointed to an email in Arushi Talwar’s Orkut email account. They said it showed evidence that the relationship between Arushi Talwar and Rajesh Talwar was strained. Arushi Talwar had asked permission from her father to do something one last time. The date was Sunday, April 8th, 2007. Dr. Nupur Talwar explained that the email was not the cause of strain between Arushi and her father. She said that the email was a trivial one about a movie outing.
expressindia said:
Upendra Pancholi, the head priest in the temple in Haridwar said that Rajesh Talwar, Nupur Talwar, Rajesh’s brothers Dinesh and Ramesh and doctor-friend Bharat Bhushan were present on the occasion to record Aarushi Talwar’s death.
Updated on Saturday, May 31, 2008.
ibnlive said:
Central Bureau of Investigation is expected to start investigations into the case next week. UP Special Task Force is already on the case.
Saturday May 31 and Sunday June 1, 2008.
NDTV reported that Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) has opened a file on the twin murders and its officers have visited the Talwar house. They spent the whole of Sunday in the flat looking at the scenes of crime.
The team has 25 officers and its head is Joint Director, Arun Kumar. Arun Kumar had previously successfully investigated the Nithari killings and Rizwanur Rehman murder case.
Updated Tuesday, June 3 2008.
Ibnlive said:
The neighbors of the estate of Jalvayu Vihar, Noida, Delhi, have given the feedback that the media have caused inconvenience to them. various media agencies sit around the whole day and do nothing but wait for something to happen to report.
The presence of the CBI, police and media have frightened the residents and their domestic helpers. Some external maids had refused to show up for work. Residents have placed themselves under “house arrest” because of the glare and questioning of the media.
Updated from NDTV:
CBI has applied for the detention of Dr Rajesh Talwar for another 5 days. After which, they are ready to apply for another 2 weeks.
Updated Wednesday June 4 2008.
ExpressIndia said:
Police forensic experts have requested the social networking sites like Orkut, Facebook and High 5 to retieve data from Arushi Talwar’s accounts. They will trace the IP addresses of the person/s who deleted the accounts.
There were claims that unknown persons were trying to hack into the email accounts of Arushi Talwar and Rajesh Talwar. Police have asked the web hosts of Hotmail and Yahoo to secure and lock these 2 persons’ email accounts.
Who are the people who are trying to be hackers? The murderer who is on the loose? Someone who is trying to delete emails, access emails or pry? Or the press who are trying to pry for information?
ibnlive said:
The head priest at Hardwar told the police that 5 people came to see him to record the death of Arushi Talwar. Nupur Talwar, Rajesh talwar, Dinesh Talwar, and the Durranis.
NDTV:
CBI’s time with Rajesh Talwar has expire. The suspect has sat for a lie detector test but the investigators could not derive any progress with the case. They claim that Dr. Rajesh Talwar has refused to answer questions, evaded questions and they had no hard evidence to pin blame on him. The authorities said that both Dr. Nupur and Dr. Rajesh gave conflicting statements and they could not confirm any fixed hypothesis.
The CBI said when they questioned the couple on how they could sleep through the night when two people were murdered under the same roof. The couple replied that they had closed their bedroom door and turned on the air-conditioning. They said they were sure that Aarushi’s bedroom door was open by the time Rajesh woke up to check on her.
Hindustan Times, on June 5:
CBI relied heavily on forensic tests. The lie detector test was useless. Rajesh Talwar is truly innocent or had outsmarted the machine!
The deceased viscera test results will be passed to CBI. The blood stained blanket, clothes and other items have been recovered too late. CBI could not confirm if they had been washed. The famous palm print at the terrace has been discarded as almost useless because it was a gloved print!
CBI suspected KK Gautam of having information or other relations as his reason for visiting the Talwars after Arushi’s death was investigated.
The security supervisor for the residential neighborhood, Shyam Sunder, was questioned.
CBI has retrieved the Noida police report filed on the first Tuesday after the twin murders, on May 20, 2008. The report said Rajesh Talwar had agreed to recover the mureder weapon and missing cell phones of the victims.
Updated on Friday, June 6 2008.
The Times Of India:
CBI believed that Aarushi Talwar was killed first before Hemraj. This was established from viscera reports, post-mortem reports, finger/ palm prints found in Aarushi’s bedroom and prints found in the terrace. They conclude so because the prints in Aarushi’s room were clean from blood and the prints found on the terrace had blood on them. So after Aarushi was murdered, her blood stained the prints of the killer.
On May 14, the computers in the Talwar housed had traces of search engine activities. The search was for sedatives that left no toxins after administration.
From DNA India.
On Thursday, May 5, CBI conducted a second lie detector test on Rajesh Talwar, because the first test was inconclusive. A fresh test of questions was used.
Rajesh Talwar’s lawyer, Pinaki Mishra, would be sending in an application for bail and free him by Friday, June 6.
Updated on Fri. June 6 2008.
CBI has started searching in the drains in the Jal Vayu Vihar colony. They would get the help of workers from the Noida municipalit. CBI claimed that in the second polygraph test, they obtained clues whch lead them to suspect that the murder weapon might be found in the drains. They intend to look for something that was discarded since May 15-16. if the drains had currents in moving water, the weapon could have been washed away.
Dr Rajesh Talwar is remanded for another 14 days in judicial custody since the CBI has said that they did not want to question him any farther. His lawyer will apply for bail on Sat.
Updated on Sat. June 7 2008.
ExpressIndia:
All India Institute of Medical Sciences was consulted. They examined the medical reports of Aarushi Talwar. Some experts said that she was killed by the blow and incisions to her head. Her neck injury was inflicted the last of all. The wounds were deep and could not be caused by a surgical scapel as the thin instrument could only cut through skin one layer at a time. Since the victim had deep wounds, it looked like it was the work of a knife. If the neck was cut first, blood would have sprayed out and stained the rest of the bedroom.The Associate professor of forensic medicine, Dr Sudhir Gupta, gave his expert opinion.
Updated Sat. June 7 2008.
ndtv.com:
CBI could not find anything that would serve as evidence in the drains within the neighborhood of the Talwar house. The results of the lie detector test were unknown to the media.
Rajesh Talwar is currently in the Dasna jail in Ghaziabad district.
There was no application submitted for bail because the magistrate handling CBI cases was visiting the jail on Saturday. The case would be heard on Tues.
Updated on Sunday, June 8, 2008.
ibnlive has exclusive rights to the results of the polygraph test administered to Dr Rajesh Talwar earlier this week. Although the CBI said that the results were inconclusive, the readings on heartbeat and blood pressure showed that Talwar was under stress when faced with certain questions. CBI wished to conclude that there is no evidence against Rajesh Talwar.
Maybe its time for CBI to locate Vishnu, the former domestic help. Has he a reason to go missing?
Updated on Sunday, June 8 2008.
ExpressIndia reports:
CBI locks down the residential neighborhood. House numbers 26 – 33 in L block of Sector 25, Noida, are under a curfew. These are conjoined flats in the same block as the Talwars’ flat. Aarushi Talwar’s grandparents, named as the Chitnises, were questioned by the CBI.
Updated Monday June 9 2008.
ndtv said:
Dr. Nupur Talwar led her relatives and friends to the office of the National Commission for Protection of Child Rights (NCPCR). She influenced the NCPCR to pass the order to ban Balaji Telefilms’ plans to make a soap opera on Aarushi Talwar. Dr. Nupur succeeded.
CBI put Krishna, a compounder who worked at Dr Rajesh Talwar’s clinic in Noida, through the lie detector test.
Dr. Rajesh Talwar & Dr. Nupur Talwar.
Updated Tues. June 10 2008.
The Talwars had a former male domestic helper who died a tragic death. His name was Nim Raj Kaushal alias Raju. There were very few writings about the death of Nim Raj Kaushal alias Raju. He died on April 15 2008. He was a domestic helper who filled in for Hemraj while Hemraj was away on holiday in Nepal. Nim Raj Kaushal alias Raju’s body was found by the road in east Delhi. Police insisted that he died as a result of his own negligent driving. His motor bike was found at the side of the road and so was his body.
Someone said that he stopped to buy a packet of cigarettes and was hit by a vehicle. Police said otherwise. The pack was found on his person, not in his hand, so he could not have immediately bought the cigarette and was hit by a vehicle.
The authorities would like to make it clear that Nim Raj Kaushal alias Raju died as a result of his own reckless driving. There was no mention of any eye witness. The case was not thoroughly investigated.
No one came to claim his body or motor cycle. His relatives were not around and not aware of his death.
Thanks to a reader who mentioned the case of Nim Raj Kaushal alias Raju.
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When two gruesome murders have happened inside a house, the other occupants have no qualms to continue living in the same quarters. The survivors were very brave or there could be something in the house that needed people to stay there and protect it. It would be fair to argue that a vacant house could attract squatters, or it was too inconvenient to relocate, or the house held too much sentimental value to abandon by shifting away. Would there be any other liberal country that permitted free access to a scene of crime?
Updated Wed. June 11, 2008.
CBI suspected that the real killer or culprits were still living in the vicinity of the same block of flats. That was the reason for the curfew and restriction imposed on the residents of the same row of flats as the Talwar house. CBI did not say if they had used manpower to keep a close 24/7 watch on the flats.
Someone had access to the Talwar flat. Aarushi Talwar was locked inside her room every night, for her own safety. Dr. Rajesh Talwar kept the key under his pillow. He loved Aarushi and wanted to protect her by this act of paternal care.
On the night of the murder and the morning after the murder, Aarushi’s door was opened. Dr. Rajesh Talwar was surely unaware of that. What happened? It was on the morning of Friday, May 16, (or around that time) that the key was discovered not under the pillow but placed on top of a painting. How can a key be placed on top of a painting? The writer who wrote those words could have meant that the key was hung on top of a painting, or the painting was in a horizontal position and the key was placed on top of it.
Somehow, the key was stolen from under the pillow. The key was used to open Aarushi Talwar’s bedroom door and she was bludgeoned to death. Surely Rajesh Talwar was unaware the key was missing from under his pillow. He may have forgotten to check for the key before he put his head down on the pillow to sleep on that fateful night. Some might think that the issue with the key was a red herring to throw suspicion off the man who had access to the key.
There was a culprit who walked around the flat, removed the key, killed Aarushi and s/he maybe the same murderer who killed Hemraj.
This same culprit was always around the flat and that was why Aarushi had to be locked into her room at night. This person was probably a violent person who exhibited the rage in the way both victims were hammered and stabbed to death and beyond death. The blows to the head probably killed the victims first but the killer/s had to ensure the deaths by cutting the throats of the victims.
A person administering care to another violent person might look up information for safe sedatives to use. A sedative can be used to calm or lull to sleep, depending the specific dosage and chemical constituents.
It was reported that Dr. Nupur or Rajesh had instructed Hemraj to accompany Aarushi in the house and not to leave her alone at home. Hemraj had a daily chore/errand to perform for the Talwars and that was to travel out to their clinic. On the day that Aarushi was home alone, Hemraj was instructed not to leave the house. Hemraj was told over the telephone that he was not needed to travel to the clinic because that would mean leaving Aarushi home alone.
Home alone herself or home alone with what else?
A minor news report stated that Hemraj’s body showed signs of struggle. He had a human bite on him. It could have been an animal bite since there were no cross examinations to confirm the evidence of the bite before his body was disposed. There were no reports on any Hindu or Islamic burial for Hemraj.
There was a source who mentioned that Hemraj’s mouth had hair inside. This was seen when Hemraj’s body was found. It was unclear if the police had examined this evidence of hair.
CBI suspects there is someone in that area. The Talwars won’t shift from the flat inspite of it being the site of murders and a crime scene.
Updated Wed. June 11 2008.
The Times Of India reported:
CBI Joint Director Arun Kumar released some information.
Monday, June 9, CBI gave Krishna a lie detector test.
Tuesday, June 10, Krishna had his second polygraph test.
Wednesday, Krishna is taken to Bangalore for a narco test.
CBI said Krishna had worked as a compounder for the past few years and he knew the surgical procedures. His prints were also identified from the prints lifted from the Talwar house. CBI took Krishna to Hindon river, Khera village and Nithari. They suspected that the murder weapon may be recovered from one of these areas. CBI claimed that Krishna was the first person to tell them about the affair between Rajesh Talwar and Anita Durrani.
Krishna spoke to the media before he was taken away by the CBI. Krishna said he was being framed to protect Rajesh Talwar. His last words were a plea, “Save me!”
Updated Wednesday June 11 2008.
merinews report:
The CBI re-opened the hypothesis that Dr. Rajesh Talwar and Dr. Anita Durrani could have been involved in some improper relationship. They claimed that Krishna was the first to mention this.
The press hinted that Aarushi Talwar would be the next to face the character assassination.
For the record, there is no solid proof that the deceased girl had any sexual relations with any boy or man. The messages from her cell phone or internet social networking sites did not offer explicit proof of any great improper relationships between the girl or anyone.
There were a few cheeky commentators who tried to sneak in a few suggestions about having videos but these people came from opposites ends of the world that were far removed from Noida. (UK and Kathmandu) How probable is it that they could possibly own videos on a girl they had never met? If any one has evidence, do the right thing on the conscience.
Our readers and commentators are responsible and intelligent people. They will shoot down any fraudalent claims on videos.
Updated on Thursday June 12 2008.
ibnlive report:
CBI is trying to gather as much allegations on Krishna as possible. There is no real evidence yet.
Vishnu Thapa, one of the oldest ex domestic helpers in the Talwar household, had introduced Hemraj (Yam Prasad Banjade alias Hemraj) to work in the Talwar house. When Hemraj went for his vacation in Nepal, he introduced his cousin, Raju (Nim Raj Kaushal alias Raju) to take his place. In April 2008, Hemraj said Raju died in an accident. CBI has found Raju alive.
Vishnu Thapa has returned to Nepal.
Updated Fri. June 13 2008.
Rediff said:
CBI released some statements. Krishna said Aarushi was innocent. Dr. Talwar maybe innocent. This part was unclear. Krishna related that 2 persons were involved in the murders. He has the information of how the murders took place and other details. He sang like a canary. There will be some more tests soon. CBI refused to elaborate on Krishna’s role in the murders or how he came to have information.
Updated Friday June 13 2008.
After Krishna’s relatives had protested about CBI’s informal detention of Krishna, the CBI has formally arrested him. The Nepalese relatives insisted that Krishna was in his bedroom sleeping with his nephew on the night that the double murders took place. The Nepalese cried foul and some other Nepalese in the region started a protest to show their displeasure. They allege that CBI asked Krishna to sign on blank paper and he did not know that he was going to go through the narco test.
TimesOfIndia reports:
CBI is reportedly questioning a Noida based businessman in relation to the crimes.
Ndtv reported that the Police might do a lie detector test on Pradeep Dayal, a friend of Dr Talwar.
Updated Sat. June 14 2008.
The man who died at an accident by the road side had been mistaken to be Raju. A few websites had written this. His name was Minraj Kaushal. His name contained a “Raj” and he was mistaken to be the Raju who had worked for the Talwars.
Krishna’s phone made an outgoing call at 12.17.32 pm on May 14 to a landline number: 011-24360509. CBI officers confirmed that the number belonged to them but refused to acknowledge that they received a call from Krishna. When the newspaper, Express India, tried to call this CBI number, it had an engaged tone.
The newspaper learnt that Krishna has not been questioned on why he tried to reach CBI on the eve of the murders. CBI had asked Krishna to be their witness for their prosecution team. However, they have also arrested him. Krishna’s lawyer, F C Sharma, said that his family would file an application for bail in the CBI court in Ghaziabad this coming Monday, June 16.
Dr Rajesh Talwar:
Updated Sat. June 14 2008.
ndtv reported that Krishna said there were 3 persons involved in the double murders.
Pradeep Tayal, the friend of the Talwars, hired the car that the Talwars drove to Haridwar. Pradeep Tayal is also the common and mutual friend of the Dr.s Durrani. Pradeep Tayal works in Flex Industry. The CBI might use the lie detector test on Pradeep Tayal.
Krishna, the compounder and receptionist at the Talwars’ clinic:
Updated via timesofindia:
TV reports are more cautious now. They hint rather than forthrightly declare they know information. They had been accused of miscommunicating and now exercise some caution. They offer some gossip since the timesofindia has also refused to confirm what actually went down. They offer what was desired to be communicated to the public.
The Talwar house has been raided by CBI again. A team from the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) might have been there. The officers opened all water tanks and pipes to check for the murder weapon.
A foreign object like a used weapon contains germs. A doctor who is well versed in sanitation and the physical hygiene of the water to the apartment would never hide a weapon in the water catchment area. Rust is poisonous and if the water is contaminated, the persons using it may fall ill.
On Friday night, June 13, 2008, The Durrani residence was raided to search for suspicious material.
Updated on Sat. June 14 2008.
ibn.com reported:
CBI has interrogated Raj Kumar, the servant/ domestic helper of the Dr.s Durrani. Meanwhile Krishna has been remanded for an extra 3 days.
Dr Rajesh Talwar’s health did not allow him to be a candidate for the narco test. The officials will use a psychological analysis instead.
Updated Sun. June 15 2008.
ibnlive reported:
Dr. Nupur Talwar claimed that her husband was being framed. CBI has put her through the lie detector test because her statements have differed from her husband’s account. They discovered nothing that could implicate her so she is not a suspect yet.
CBI will arrest more suspects following tips from Krishna. CBI seeks to recover hard evidence of the murder weapon, blood stained clothes and cell phones.
Dr. Nupur Talwar on around June 15 2008:
Updated Sun. June 15 2008.
DeccanHerald reported:
The CBI has given Dr. Nupur Talwar a third lie detector test. She may or may not be arrested.
ndtv reported:
Teenagers are traumatized by the case of the double murders. They have told their parents that they are afraid. The media coverage and police investigations left questions dangling in the air. The children needed assurance that a similar danger would not happen to them.
Updated Monday June 16 2008.
ibn reported:
The police cordoned off the L Block complex of Noida’s Sector 2, where the Talwar residence is located. CBI officers searched for a possible murder weapon.
Picture/ photograph of police officers maintaining a strict block in the L Block complex of Noida’s Sector 2 area.
Updated Mon. June 16 2008.
ndtv reported:
CBI gave a press conference to deny that Dr Nupur Talwar would be arrested as a suspect in the case of the double murders. Dr Nupur Talwar said that she went to bed and did not hear anything on the night Aarushi Talwar and Hemraj were murdered.
Updated Tues. June 17
ibnlive report:
Vijay Mandal, a domestic helper in the Jal Vayu Vihar area, has been questioned. CBI searched a garage at Jal Vayu Vihar where Mandal had stayed.
CBI had Krishna identify a piece of metal rod about 1 foot long. After this, the search was halted. It was assumed they have found what they were looking for.
CBI’s next focus was on the murder weapon. CBI claimed they have the facts on the origin of the weapon, and how it got into the Talwar house.
Updated India’s Wed. June 18 2008.
timesofindia report:
CBI maintained that Krishna had confessed to a crime. CBI has been granted a further remand of Krishna on Tuesday. He will remain in CBI’s custody for another 6 days, counting from Tuesday June 17.
CBI expects Krishna to help them locate vital evidence as his confession can’t be used in court. Any admission made before police (161 CrPC) can’t act as evidence in court.
There is desperate need for evidence.
Updated Wed. June 18 2008.
From sify news:
Different news sources have reported conflicting versions of Krishna’s situation. Some said Krishna confessed to CBI. Some said Krishna did not confess but instead claimed that he was being framed.
Updated Thurs. June 19 2008.
CBI claimed that Krishna has confessed to his involvement in the double murders. CBI said that Krishna will recover Aarushi Talwar’s cell phone. However, Krishna’s lawyer, F. C. Sharma said that his client did not make any confessions.
Updated Thur. June 19 2008.
rediff news:
CBI claimed that Krishna has confessed. According to CBI this is the scenario. Hemraj admitted Krishna, Shambu & Rajkumar into the servant’s quarters on May 15. They drank beer (or alcohol). Rajkumar was attracted to Aarushi and he entered her room to sexually assault her. Aarushi resisted and he killed her. Rajkumar, Shambu & Krishna brought Hemraj to the terrace and killed him. The Talwars are innocent and had no role in the murders.
No information was given on the identity of Shambu. Rajkumar is Dr. Durrani’s man servant.
CBI plans to subject Rajkumar to the narco test.
Updated Thur. June 19 2008.
the site Hindu.com reported:
The Durranis were questioned by CBI. Their domestic helper, Raj Kumar was also interviewed. The Dr.s Talwar’s other part time domestic maid, Bharti, was questioned about the events on May 16, the day Aarushi’s murder was discovered.
CBI maintains that Krishna provided a khukri (Nepalese traditional machete) to Hemraj. Then, the khukri was handled by Rajkumar to kill Arushi.
Hindustan Times reported:
Rajesh Talwar & Nupur Talwar’s common driver, Umesh Sharma, had driven Dr. Nupur Talwar to HDFC bank. Nupur Talwar withdrew Rs 26,000 on May 14 or 15. CBI is investigating the probability of a contract killing. CBI has asked the bank for the account details of the Talwars. Dr. Nupur Talwar had said that she withdrew money to buy surgical equipment. CBI searched around Talwar’s house and Krisha’s room and removed 3 bags of material.
Updated on India’s Fri. June 20 2008.
TimesOfIndia:
This newspaper repeated Noida Police’s claims that Dr. Rajesh Talwar’s mobile phone records suggested that he was not at home in Jalvayu Vihar on the night of May 15. If Rajesh Talwar was not at home, how could he be implicated in the double murders?
Dr. Rajesh Talwar said he was at home on the night of May 15. The statements of Noida Police vs Rajesh Talwar are contradictory.
Ghaziabad special CBI court has extended Rajesh Talwar’s remand to July 2.
ExpressIndia reported:
CBI said that they examined video footage and other expert accounts on Krishna’s clothing on the first day of the discovery of the murders. CBI claimed that Krishna changed his clothes and demanded his first set of clothes that he wore before the switchover. CBI claimed that his first suit of clothes may contain evidence like bloodstains. Krishna’s clothes have gone missing. CBI used 3 lie detector tests on Krishna. He was asked repeatedly about his missing clothes.
Vijay Mandal, a domestic helper from same L block in Jalvayu Viha, was interviewed by CBI. Vijay Mandal had to sit for the lie detector test.
CBI has been very hardworking. On Wed. night, they took Rajkumar to an undisclosed location and recovered something. They returned at 3:30 am.
Updated Fri. June 20 2008
The Hindustan Times:
CBI said that Krishna saw Aarushi being killed. The CBI has refused to explain Krishna’s role in the Noida double murders. Is he a witness, murderer or accomplice?
Updated India’s Sat. June 21 2008.
ExpressIndia:
Eight police officers from Sector 20 Police Station, who did the case for the Noida double murders of Arushi Talwar and Hemraj, were called to CBI headquarters at CGO Complex on Lodhi Road and questioned. They may be charged with the offence of destroying evidence. They were asked about the clothes Krsihna was wearing on the day of May 15, when Aarushi Talwar’s body was discovered.
CBI has cross examined the witnesses to match the statements given by all the suspects and police.
CBI said that Noida Police have clarified that they think Rajesh Talwar was at home on May 14. Nothing was said about the phone records that suggested Rajesh Talwar was not at home on May 14.
CBI has tried to reconstruct the scene on the night of May 14. They believe that with two noisy air-conditioners running, it was not possible to hear noises from the bedroom, with the door closed
ibnlive reported:
Rajesh Talwar sat for another lie detector test on Friday June 20.
Krishna’s khukri (machete) has been sent to a forensic laboratory for analysis.
In the psycho-analysis test, Krishna said he was in the neighbor’s flat, next to the Talwars’ flat, at the time of the murders.
In the narco-test, Krishna said he was in Talwars’ flat at the time of the murders. CBI faced these inconsistencies in statements.
37 days of investigations have passed. CBI took charge since May 31.
ndtv:
The Talwars conceived Aarushi after 5 years of treatment at Gangaram Hospital. So Aarushi Talwar was their natural child and they had no motive to murder her.
CBI concluded that even when Aarushi’s bedroom door was open, the Talwars in their closed bedroom, could not hear anything outside their bedroom.
During the narco test of Krishna, he said that Rajkumar killed Aarushi.
Some unmentioned source said that Rajesh Talwar appeared stressed and in a state of shock.
Updated Sun. June 22 2008.
ExpressIndia:
CBI said that they ran checks on Krishna, Rajkumar, Vijay Mandal and Umesh. They do not have any criminal records. The agency waits for the tests on the khukri recovered from Krishna’s home. The final results from 7 lie detector tests and 1 narco analysis test has yet to arrive.
Updated Sun June 22.
ExpressIndia:
CBI called a second interview with Dr. Nupur Talwar. She maintained that she believed her husband, Rajesh Talwar, to be innocent. She hoped that her husband would be released on bail at the next application.
A prayer session was held at a temple at the Baba Balaknath Mandir in Sector-62 in the memory of Arushi. Dheeraj Kumar, the priest of the temple said that the prayers were for Aarushi Talwar’s soul.
ThaiIndian reported:
Dr Nupur Talwar said that her husband was depressed. His physical and mental health had deteriorated. She hoped that Rajesh would be granted bail on June 26. She expressed her wish to put the murders behind her and carry on. Nupur Talwar thanked the devotees who prayed for Aarushi and her family.
Updated on Mon. June 23 2008
CBI has obtained a new set of 4-day remand for Krishna. On Mon. June 23, Krishna told the judge that ”They keep beating me. I haven’t done anything. I was sleeping at home on the night of the murders.”
The judge has granted CBI’s request in spite of Krishna’s claims.
Updated Tue. June 24 2008.
ibnlive reported:
A Bachelor of Education entrance examination conducted by an Allahabad based university has a question based on Aarushi Talwar. It asked for the city in which Aarushi lived in.
Mernews reported:
CBI said that the forensic test revealed that Krishna’s khukri is clean. There was no possibility of that khukri being the murder weapon.
When Krishna was led to appear before the judge for the CBI to request for an extended remand, he told the judge that the CBI officers did not allow him to sleep at night. Krishna claimed that he was being tortured regularly.
Updated Wed. June 25 2008.
ndtv reported:
Dr. Nupur Talwar missed her scheduled second lie detector test at CBI offices because she was late. Nupur Talwar went to the prison center to visit her husband, Dr Rajesh Talwar and when she reached CBI office, the officers told her that it was too late. CBI would schedule another appointment for her to take the test.
Ekta Kapoor’s Balaji Telefilms went ahead to screen an episode in Kahani Ghar Ghar ki that was a parody of the Aarushi Talwar murder story.
I&B Minister Priya Ranjan Dasmunshi said that he will write to Eka Kapoor again to complain. Actually nobody had any legal right to stop the production or airing. Star TV denied that the episode used a screen plot on Noida’s double muder case.
ibnlive reported:
Dr Nupur Talwar & Dr Dinesh Talwar will be questioned again by the CBI.
Updated Thur. June 26 2008.
Sahara Samay and ZeeNews reported basically the same things:
The CBI has rejected the request to release Dr Rajesh Talwar. They intend to keep him in remand until they can file a charge against him. There was a new application for bail but the newspapers have not written about the success/failure of this latest attempt yet.
Dr Nupur Talwar sat for her second lie detector test on Wed. June 25 but nothing more could be derived. The questions were concentrated on the nature of the relationship between Rajesh Talwar & Aarushi. Nupur Talwar’s answers decsribed their realtionship as being perfectly normal.
TimesNow reported: “Reports suggest Talwar’s lawyer was also assaulted by the agitating lawyers, even as Talwar’s defence counsel initiated the bail proceedings in the courtroom.”
That was the one essential and different sentence that merited attention in the entire report. The rest of it was nothing new.
The Times Of India reported:
NHRC sent their second letter to CBI to complain about their treatment of Krishna. CBI will reply soon.
Investigations are still ongoing. Nobody has been cleared from suspicion yet.
Rediff news:
Rediff wrote that Krishna confessed to killing Aarushi as she resisted Rajkumar’s sexual assault. Krishna’s motive was to wreck vengeance against Dr Rajesh Talwar for humiliating him in front of many patients when he made a mistake one day.
The murder weapon was conveniently explained away. He flushed it down the toilet. Hemraj objected to the murder of Aarushi so Rajkumar, Krishna & Shambu dragged him to the terrace and killed him there.
How trustworthy is Rediff News?
The unofficial media websites are working hard to do follow-ups on the trail of the Noida double murders. They have thrown up 2 major hypotheses:
1) Wife swapping and swingers club. Dr. Rajesh is a suspect. (from non-verified website called mid-day)
2) Krishna and Rajkumar have motives. Sources claimed that Krishna killed Aarushi. All the male servants; Krishna, Rajkumar & Shambu killed Hemraj because he threatened to report them to the Talwars. (from rediff news; another “shock jock” news site)
How believable are Mid-Day & Rediff?
Updated from Zee News:
CBI counsel RK Saini opposed bail for Rajesh Talwar. CBI said both Rajesh & Nupur Talwar were not cleared from suspicion. CBI said both did not answer questions fully nor co-operate well.
Dr Nupur told a newspaper that she did not suspect any of the servants to be guilty of murder.
The facts are:
Rajesh Talwar was arrested May 23.
Krishna was arrested June 13.
Raj Kumar was arrested June 27. He will be remanded for 14 days. The nex hearing would be on July 11, where the status of his case will be heard before a magistrate.
Updated on Fri. June 27 2008.
TimesOfIndia reported –
Rajesh Talwar’s bail application was rejected. Dinesh Talwar said hat he did not go to work since May 16 because he had to look after his brother and his family. Dinesh said that Krishna had no motive to kill Aarushi. Whatever happened at work in Rajesh Talwar’s clinic was very minor and did not warrant murder. Nupur Talwar herself said in another interview that she did not believe that the servants could commit murder.
The security in Dasna Jail was tight. Nupur Talwar told a reporter that she was banned from sending home cooked food to her husband. Evidently, it was for his own security, which the person concerned did not seem to grasp.
TimesNow reported:
On Friday, CBI took Krishna to the Talwar house and brought Rajkumar too. CBI questioned Nupur Talwar in front of Krishna & Rajkumar. No other specific information was given on this. The newspaper suggested that it was to reconstruct the scenario on May 15-16.
Updated Sat. June 28 2008.
TimesOfIndia reported:
CBI arrested Rajkumar on Fri. June 27. A white T shirt was seized from his room in his employer’s house. Rajkumar had stayed with the Durranis, the couple who were dentists and friends/colleagues of the Talwars. The shirt was confisicated because it had blood stains. The white Tee was already washed. The first forensic test revealed that the stains were from human blood. It has already been examined at the Centre for DNA Fingerprinting and Diagnostics. It was sent to Hyderabad to test if the blood belonged to Aarushi and Hemraj.
Updated Sun June 29 2008.
TimesOfIndia reported -
CBI said that Raj Kumar has confessed. It was no specified exactly what he had confessed. CBI spoke on behalf of Raj Kumar, to claim that he would be able to recover Aarushi’s missing cell phone, his clothes and other things connected to the Noida twin murders. It was said that Rajkumar had broken the phone and hidden it somewhere.
Previously, CBI had also claimed that Krishna was able to recover evidence for them but nought has come out of these claims.
What did Raj Kumar say to all this? He said that he is innocent.
Until hard evidence is recovered, all claims are stories that are unaccompanied by solid proofs. The center of focus has transferred from Rajesh Talwar, to Krishna, and now Raj Kumar.
Updated June 30 2008.
The Statesman reported:
CBI has plans to subject Raj Kumar to a new narco analysis test and a P 300 wave test. The P 300 wave test is commonly called brain mapping or brain fingerprinting tests.
CBI said that the deleted pictures from Aarushi Talwar’s digital camera have been recovered. The photos show incriminating evidence of the people and clothes that were used. These images will be used to consolidate other proofs. The CBI has refused to elaborate further on the exact nature of the images recovered. They cite some confidential reasons for with-holding crucial details.
The CBI website’s last update said that Rajkumar would be remanded for 14 days, until July 11.
Updated Tue. July 1 2008.
This site is in Hindi lnaguage.
It printed a photo of the Aarushi Talwar’s bed and drew a drawing of Aarushi on her bed. The simulated picture is gory. Please be alerted.
Updated Wed. July 2 2008.
ExpressIndia reported:
KK Gautam, the retired police officer, has been called to CBI offices at Lodhi Rd. CBI questioned him on his discovery of Hemraj’s body and specific details. KK Gautam & Noida Police claimed they found Hemraj first but the Dr.s Talwar claimed to the CBI that they saw Hemraj’s body first.
There was confusion about this since at the time Hemraj’s body was found, the Talwars were away at Haridwar to immerse the ashes of their daughter, Aarushi Talwar.
Either there was a mistake in the reporting by media, or the Talwars knew about Hemraj’s body before they left for Haridwar. When the Talwars returned, they then identified Hemraj’s body.
Updated Wed. July 2 2008.
TimesOfIndia reported:
CBI deputy director Arun Kumar has been scheduled to return to his parent cadre. The case of the Noida twin murders may be shelved or continued. Since the senior CBI officer is leaving, all the investigations handled by him have an uncertain outcome; until a replacement or directive is found. The UP government denied that this recall had anything to do with the murder cases.
Politics has stepped in.
Updated from Hindustan Times:
Krishna’s bail has been rejected. His lawyer, FC Sharma, protested but it was to no avail.
Special Judicial Magistrate (CBI) Sapna Mishra said if the charges lead to either life imprisonment/death penalty and they do not fall under certain provisions of CrPC 437, (age under 16 or medically unfit), the judge can’t grant bail to the accused.
Updated Fri. July 4 2008.
It is Day 50 since the Noida twin murders took place in the wee hours of the morning on May 16.
India Today Group Online, ITGO, a small websit, published an article. None of the major newspapers have published this yet.
The bottle of Scotch recovered from the Talwar residence had blood and 5 sets of fingerprints.
It took so long for the CBI to discover the evidence because the bottle was wiped over. Officers used a ultraviolet light torch to shine over and examine the bottle and saw the faint impressions.
Forensic experts said the blood stains belonged to Aarushi Talwar and Hemraj. However, the CBI have not released any official statement regarding this latest find.
Updated on India’s Sat. July 5 2008.
Express India reported:
CBI brought Dr. Nupur Talwar to AIIMS/Department of Forensic Science to withdraw her blood samples. Nurpur Talwar, Rajesh Talwar & Krishna have been given psychoanalysis tests.
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Updated India’s Sunday July 6 2008.
Zee TV claimed that Dr.s Rajesh Talwar & Nupur Talwar were out on the night of May 15, when Aarushi Talwar & Hemraj were murdered. The Talwars were alleged to be at a hotel where they had booked 12 rooms.
Well, Zee TV had better have the evidence to back up this claim or face serious repercussions. Let’s not hear about deletion of record in accounts. Some deleted records can be retrieved. Some can’t.
Updated Mon. July 7 2008.
CBI has written a very short note to expose Zee TV claims. CBI said that Dr.s Rajesh Talwar & Nupur Talwar were at home on the night of May 15. The claim that a dozen hotel rooms were booked in Delhi is speculative and not true. CBI assures in their statement that they are diligent in their investigations.
Updated via Times Now:
Dr Nupur told the media that the TV channel allegations were false. They will seek advice on how to stop the spread of false allegations.
Updated Mon/Tue July 7-8.
Express India reported:
A survey was done on many hotels in South Delhi. No hotel had block booking of more than 5 rooms on the night of May 15. No rooms were booked under the Talwar name for May 15.
CBI refuted Zee TV claims and said that none of their officers disclosed any information to Zee TV.
Satish Tamta, one of the senior lawyers representing the Talwars, has asked for the source who made claims on the booking allegation.
Updated on Wed/Thur. July 10 2008.
July 10 – Day 56.
Express India reported:
CBI has examined the results of the lie detector test given to Vijay Mandal. They discovered possible deceptions in the test. The test was administered on June 19. Vijay Mandal was still being questioned but he was not arrested.
Vijay Mandal is a driver in the Talwar neighborhood.
CBI thought that Vijay Mandal had lied about his presence in the Talwar house on the night of the murders. Vijay Mandal said he did not know Krishna and Rajkumar, although he was established as being good friends with them.
Vijay Mandal works for Puneet Rai Tandon, a resident of the same block as the Talwars in L-32, Jalvayu Vihar, Sector-25, Jalvayu Vihar.
Rajkumar is in CBI custody. Rajesh Talwar and Krishna are lodged in Dasna Jail.
Updated Thur. July 10 2008.
Express India has interviewed Ram J Singh, one of the Jailors of Dasna Jail. He said that Rajesh Talwar spent his time reading non-fiction books, watching news and sat alone. His tears well up whenever the topic of Aarushi was mentioned. he was housed in Barack 7 of Dasna Jail, along with 150 other in-mates. His wife Nupur Talwar and his elder brother Dinesh Talwar visit him twice weekly. His lawyers visit him separately.
Krishna is lodged in Barack 5 as the CBI has requested that these 2 suspects be housed separately and banned from contacting each other. Krishna spent his time praying and writing Ram in his notebook. Krishna called upon Lord Ram, a deity in the Hindu religion, for help. Krishna’s brother visited him.
Rajkumar underwent his second narco test. Raj Kumar has taken narco-analysis, psycho-analysis, lie detector and brain-mapping tests.
CBI has started to investigate on Jeevan, a close relative of Hemraj. They are leaving no stone unturned.
Updated Fri. July 11 2008.
Via IBN Live -
The CBI officer was unable to attend court in the morning so the case was adjourned to 1400 pm IST. There are no material evidence. Vijay Mandal may be arrested soon. Dr Talwar, Krishna and Rajkumar will face one another in court for the first time.
Via IBN Live -
IBN has changed its news in the space of a few hours. Suddenly they had a source that told them about CBI’s progress in the case. A source from CBI told CNN-IBN that CBI has recovered the murder weapon & parts of Aarushi Talwar’s mobile phone.
Updated Friday evening July 11 2008.
57 days after the murders of Aarushi Talwar & Hemraj, the CBI has published a lengthly report of its latest investigations. The report can be read from its officila website, http://www.cbi.gov.in/default.php
A true copy of this CBI report has been pasted in the comments section, under comment number 1239.
General news:
Dr. Rajesh Talwar has no incriminating evidence against him. He might be released or retained in remand.
Dr. Nupur Talwar may be cleared from suspicion too.
A barrage of tests were done on Krishna.
A barrage of tests were done on Raj Kumar.
This led to the arrest and interrogation of Vijay Mandal.
The murder weapon and Aarushi Talwar’s broken cell phone components were supposedly found.
The public were reassured that hardworking investigations will continue. Nothing was said about the possible transfer of CBI Director of Investigations, Arun Kumar, upon the expiry of his tenure. It was assumed that the case will be wrapped up and all loose ends tied soon.
Updated Fri/Sat July 12 2008.
Via Hindustan Times:
49 days after his detention, Rajesh Talwar has been officially released from Dasna Jail. His lawyers have filed the papers to secure his release and he is expected to be out on Sat. July 12.
Neesha Barua and Rajeshwari; Aarushi’s classmates, affirmed their belief in the Talwars’ innocence.
The Talwars’ neighbour RK Tiwari, said he believed that Rajesh Talwar is innocent.
Dr VK Gupta, president of the Indian Medical Association, Noida, asked a question – Who would compensate for the 56 days of Talwar’s life he spent in jail?
Updated Sat. July 12 2008.
All newspapers carried the news that Dr. Rajesh Talwar has been released from Dasna Jail. His lawyers had completed the necessary paperwork and posted bail. A horde of media was present. Rajesh Talwar gave his wife a quiet hug. He promised to talk to the media later.
Updated Sunday July 13 2008.
Across all media, like as if in unison, the articles have been focused on the mistakes of the police and CBI.
Without evidence, Rajesh Talwar was arrested. Now, without evidence, he was released. The media would like to focus their attention on Noida SSP Satish Ganesh, his senior, Gurdarshan Singh and Chief Minister Mayawati.
Updated via IBN Live,
Rajesh Talwar declared that he wants to be left alone to grieve, mourn and share with his family. The Talwars will not sue the Noida Police for now.
Times Of India:
The reporter quoted Arun Kumar as saying that the first priority was to crack the case. After which, the investigation will be on negligent officers or those guilty of punishable crime.
Express India:
The senior officers believed in the junior officers without checking. The junior officers believed in Krishna’s story without validating with proofs. Krishna had said that Aarushi confided in her classmate about her father’s involvement with Anita Durrani. Thus when Hemraj and Aarushi were found together, Talwar supposedly finished them off. No officers checked this story and the officers gave this to the media. That was how the chain of command evolved and the jumping to conclusions happened.
Updated via IBN Live:
Rajesh Talwar gave a statement to the media. He thanked God and CBI for their support. Nupur Talwar asked to be left alone.
Updated Mon. evening India’s timezone July 14 2008.
NDTV report:
Three dentists have lost their jobs at Fortis Hospital in Noida. The person who gave the information could not be identified because he was not supposed to speak to the media. Dr. Rajesh Talwar, Dr. Nupur Talwar & Dr. Anita Durani were not invited to continue working there. The reason being they were visiting doctors and the hospital had no plans to bring them back. The hospital had decided this since May 16, the day the twin murders were discovered.
Updated via Express India:
On Sunday July 13, some classmates of Aarushi Talwar went to visit her surviving parents at their flat. They expressed sorrow and regret at the tragedies after Aarushi’s death. They brought some flowers for the Talwars. Dr Mehra, who shared a clinic with Nupur Talwar near Khan market, also dropped in to visit.
The UP government will not punish the police regarding the Noida murder case.
Updated Tue. July 15 2008.
Did anyone watch India TV on Sunday, July 13, 9 pm? Please read comment #1341.
Will CBI respond to the new claims, like as in the Zee TV’s allegations?
Updated Tue. July 15
Via Express India -
Krishna’s brother, Mohan, has lost his job. Mohan was the sole breadwinner in his family of 3 persons. He has a dependant wife and 6 year old daughter. His factory co-workers allegedly were scared and insecure by his presence. His boss sacked him without notice.
Updated Thur. July 17.
The Noida twin murder case magnified the problem of the big social divide. Servants were treated as unequals. The article summarized and then ended with a poignant statement. None made a candlelight virgil for Hemraj.
Is the writer a Nepalese sympathesizer ?
Updated Fri. July 18.
Via ekantipur
Nepalese in New Delhi have started to protest against CBI. Their claims against CBI -
1) Conspiracy against Nepalese to chase them away from India
2) Framing accused suspects
3) Threatening and torture of suspects in their remand
eKantipur published the quote below:
“Krishna had been threatened that he would be paraded naked in front of his family if he did not follow their (CBI’s) instructions,” claimed Mohan Thapa, brother of Krishna.
The Nepalese planned to stage a demonstration.
Updated on Sunday July 19, via Express India:
On July 19, the Ghaziabad court extended remand of Vijay Mandal by 3 more days. He will be produced in court on July 22. As with every suspect that had been detained, the agency insisted that this particular suspect could assist in the recovery of the murder weapon, cell phones and clothes worn on the day of the murders.
The CBI official website has no updates on the Noida twin murders.
Updated Mon. July 21.
Via The Hindu:
Rastriya Jana Morcha (RJM) chairman Chitra Bahadur K.C. said that he will ask the Nepal government and National Human Rights Commission to save Krishna Thapa and Raj Kumar. Mulprabah Akhil Bharatiya Nepali Ekta Samaj, a New Delhi-based organisation of people of Nepalese origin, is taking up the issue with the government of Nepal and Nepalese Embassy in New Delhi. That would mean 4 different groups to assist in the case if they do get involved.
Updated Mon/Tue. July 21/22.
Via Express India.
Where are Krishna’s clothes that he wore on the day Aarushi Talwar’s murder was discovered?
When there are no more places or persons left to search or interrogate, go back to the Noida Police. The CBI has asked the Noida Police for Krishna’s clothes.
Superintendent of Police R K Chaturvedi, denied the CBI’s claim that the attire was with them. When the Noida police were investigating the twin murders, Krishna was not named as a suspect yet and the police had no cause to keep his clothes.
Updated Wed. July 23.
The Hindu
It is a boring article which meant briefly, that the media and investigative agencies should zip it. Express India said the same thing.
Express India:
Vijay Mandal’s remand has been extended to 3 more days in judicial custody. Vijay Mandal and his defence lawyers will appear in court on July 25.
A few matters were discussed:
1) No evidence was found or proved against Vijay Mandal. No evidence was found against Krishna and Raj Kumar.
2) Mandal’s test results should be made available to his defence lawyers.
3) Application of motion against CBI for forcing Mandal to lie that he had seen Krishna and Raj Kumar kill Aarushi and Hemraj.
Updated on July 25.
The Ghaziabad court has extended the judicial custody of the three suspects namely, Krishna Mohan, and his supposed accomplices (who claimed not to know one another) Vijay Mandal and Rajkumar. The court has allowed them to be detained for 14 days. The next hearing might be on August 8.
Updated July 26.
Via Express India -
The following is so incredible that the context is quoted to avoid miscommunication.
“Rajkumar’s counsel Sanjay Tyagi had submitted an application alleging that CBI had tortured his client physically and mentally. The application quotes Raj Kumar as saying that he does not “know Krishna, but CBI officials have threatened to kill” his family if he “does not become (a) prosecution witness”. ”
Updated Thur. July 31
CBI ex chief, Vijay Shanker retired on Thursday, July 31, after 39 years in service. Vijay Shanker’s farewell message is here.
Updated Sat. Aug 2.
Via Thaindian News,
The new CBI Chief is Ashwini Kumar, from Himachal Pradesh.
Updated August 4 2008.
Via The Telegraph
A secret source close to the Talwars told a newspaper that they wish to sell away their flat and relocate to New Delhi, the capital proper. The Talwars are prepared to sell at a loss.
Updated August 9.
Via TOI:
Ashwani Kumar, the new CBI chief, said that the investigations into the murders of Arushi Talwar and Hemraj were still on-going. Ashwani Kumar stressed that corroborative evidence was being sought to substantiate the charges.
August 10.
Via TimesNow.
Ashwani Kumar is quoted as saying:
“In the Arushi Talwar murder case, we did a focused investigation. The case was becoming too much of a social problem. It wasn’t merely a law and order problem. The investigations are on, we haven’t reached any conclusions yet.”
Updated August 18.
Gag order:
Surat Singh, a lawyer based in Delhi, has filed a lawsuit to question the media reports that could have tarnished the reputations of the Talwars, especially Rajesh Talwar. The court asked the governments of Uttar Pradesh and Central government to implement a mechanism to restrain the media.
Updated August 22.
Here is an article on why it is not right to blame the media when in the beginning, the police was the first to heap allegations against the Talwars. The CBI has been guilty of detaining Rajesh Talwar for 50 days without admitting that it had no evidence to warrant a detention, until after his bailed release.
The minister for women and child development, Renuka Chowdhury, said she would be writing to UP chief minister Mayawati seeking the removal of Meerut zone inspector general (IG) Gurdarshan Singh. The article is here.
Updated Sept. 2
TOI reported that CBI was unlikely to meet the September 10 dateline to file a charge sheet against Krishna. That means he has to be released from prison. The 90 day custody period ends and Krishna is likely to get bail.
Updated Sept 4.
Via ZeeNews.
Vijay Mandal, Krishna and Raj Kumar were produced in the Ghaziabad Court on Thursday, Sept. 4. Inspite of protests from CBI, the court granted bail to Vijay Mandal. The judge said there was lack of evidence to press charges on Vijay Mandal. The bond on Mandal was set at Rs 25,000. CBI still claimed it awaits more reports from brain mapping and narco tests. The news did not state if Mandal or his sponsor had paid for his bond.
Updated September 6.
Via TOI.
F C Sharma, counsel for Krishna, expressed hope that the entire case of the CBI would collapsing as Vijay Mandal has been granted bail and cleared of wrong doing.
Updated Sept. 7.
Via TOI.
Vijay Mandal told reporters that CBI tried to convince him to become an approver against co-accused Krishna & Raj Kumar. Mandal declared he refused. He said the charges against Krishna & Rajkumar were false and framed them. Mandal’s brother, Shravan and another relative gave the sureties. Maandal spoke of his sufferings and his gratitude towards the media who believed in his innocence and his lawyer. He said he knew Krishna “a bit” and was not acquainted with Rajkumar at all. Mandal disputed the allegation that a murderer would take along strangers to help him commit murders. He alleged the CBI tried to trap him into saying wrong things when he was semi-conscious.
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Updated Sept. 10.
Vandana Talwar, Arushi’s aunt, said that the family was disappointed that the CBI failed to file a charge sheet against any of the servants. Vandana expressed her preference to see the accused behind bars. (source)
In other newspapers, the Talwars said they were disappointed that Arushi’s murderer was not caught. They supposedly said they would continue the investigation themselves should the authorities stop their work on the case. This sounded like they were reading the public’s reaction on the case.
On Tuesday, the special CBI court in Ghaziabad rejected the bail plea of Raj Kumar. CBI magistrate Sapna Mishra rejected the bail plea. One reason could be that CBI has until Sept. 10 to file the chargesheet and Tuesday was 1 day before the deadline. (source)
There is a reward of Rs 1 lakh for clues in the Arushi/Hemraj double muder case. (Source)
The Talwars were interviewed by NDTV. The transcript is here.
Updated Sept. 12. via IBN
Minor triumph:
Krishna and Rajkumar were granted bail on two sureties of Rs 25000 each. The special court in Ghaziabad granted them bail. The court rejected several persuasions by the CBI who said –
1) Rajkumar & Hemraj had telephone records
2) Rajkumar & Krishna would flee to Nepal.
3) The two accused may destroy evidence
4) Probe against Rajkumar was underway and yielding results soon
The court rejected all the arguments from CBI.
Updated. Thur. Oct. 2
Raj Kumar and Krishna are back in Nepal. They are free to travel home to visit and they will return if necessary. (NDTV article)
CBI formed a new three man team to re-investigate the double murders. This team will piece the evidence and ascertain if there are anny missing pieces of the puzzle. (Source)
Updated. Sunday. Oct. 5.
Via Hindustan Times.
The pathologist had been on unauthorized leave since Jan. 31. She reported for work on Mar. 26 – 29. Arushi’s murder happened in May 16. The pathologist was away and yet, reports have been signed in her name. What has happened? The original reports were missing from her cupboard. Or there were no authentic originals and the copies submitted to the CBI were fakes.
Updated on Jan. 2, 2009.
Rajkumar has been recalled from Nepal. Rajkumar arrived in Noida on Friday evening, Jan. 2. Rajkumar told Newsline that he had no idea about the reason. He had no written communication from CBI. Naresh Yadav, Rajkumar’s lawyer, wants to inform the court before handing over his client to CBI for interrogation.
Rajkumar has claimed on Dec. 26, 2008 that he has a hearing problem. He alleged he developed this problem after 2 narco-analysis tests conducted on him while he was detained by the CBI. Via Newsline.
Updated Feb 25 Wed.
Dr S Malini, the forensic lab assistant director, who had worked on the Talwar case, was dismissed. Dr Malini was the Narco analyst at the forensic science laboratory. She did the Narco tests analysis for the Talwar case.
Dr S Malini, assistant director of the forensic lab in Bangalore, was sacked. The Karnataka government fired Dr S Malini. Karnataka police claimed Dr Malini faked her age to get her job. Dr Malini was also accused of leaking information to the press. Malini had faced charges of tampering with evidence in the Abhaya murder case in Kerala. Malini had worked on high profile cases like the Malegaon blasts, the Hyderabad Mecca Masjid explosions and Arushi Talwar murder case and the Telgi case.
Updated May 10 2009
Dr Nupur Talwar was interviewed on Mother’s Day, the second Sunday of May 2009. Dr Talwar shared her insights on what Mother’s Day means to her after the death of her sole child. Read Dr Talwar’s interview here.
Updated September 5 2009.
Disturbing and bad “news” have been released regarding the swab samples taken from the dead body of Aarushi Talwar. The rumors claimed the swabs removed from her virginal opening/ cervix were not from Aarushi. It is presumed the DNA on the swabs did not match Aarushi’s DNA so they have deduced the swabs did not belong to Aarushi.
The Centre for DNA Fingerprinting and Diagnostics in Hyderabad, received the slides in December 2008 and said the material did not belong to Arushi.
Otherwise the counterclaim is not valid. Now, the swabs are said to be from an unidentified woman.
The said swabs with fake evidence showed the absence of sexual activity.
There are accusations that the real swab samples may have been substituted after they showed results of sexual activity. Why else would the real swabs go missing and be substituted with an alternative?
The real swabs may contain the DNA and fluids of the assailant. Someone is protecting the suspect.
If Hemraj was responsible for any transgression, there would not be a large necessity to hide the truth. Both the dead may rest in peace. The living assailant needs masking, which may be why some people have taken elaborate efforts to fake evidence.
Dr Sunil Dohere, of Noida District Hospital, was the doctor who had drawn Arushi’s vaginal swabs. Dr Dohere (sometimes spelled as Dohre) claimed that there was some white discharge which suggested seminal fluid.
Dr Dohere’s senior, Dr S C Singhal, said no semen was found in slides prepared from the swabs. How tragic it is that Dr Singhal has since retired and isn’t involved in the case now.
The CBI sent one of the slides to Hyderabad. CBI allegedly did not investigate the two different claims by Dr Dohere and Dr Singhal, of the same hospital. Somehow, somewhere along the way, the slide or slides may have been swapped.
Arun Kumar, senior officer in Indian Police Service (IPS), has been sent back to Uttar Pradesh. Ashwini Kumar, CBI director, may have been responsible for this. The alleged reason was the tampering of evidence that was found. Ashwini Kumar did not investigate why the evidence was lost/ substituted/ destroyed. Ashwini Kumar also failed to register a case/ report about the discrepancies in the evidence.
Updated Sep 14
Arushi Talwar’s cell phone, with her SIM number 9910520630, has been found. After 16 months, Ms Talwar’s mobile phome was located in the hands of a bank security guard named Ram Phool. Ram Phool works in Bulandshahr, Uttar Pradesh. Phool was arrested and questioned. After 16 months, Ms Talwar’s cell phone has been found.
Ram Phool’s sister found Ms Talwar’s cell phone in the vicinity of Dr Rajesh Talwar’s home in Noida. The sweeper lady gave the cell phone to her brother, Ram Phool. Phool has been using the phone intermittently. Phool only switched it on when he wanted to make a call and switched it off afterwards. That was how the source explained Phool avoided being traced by the cell phone signals.
New Delhi police recovered the cell phone and it has been handed over to the CBI.
Updated Sep 15
Aarushi’s cell phone is a black colored Nokia N72. The CBI said they will not share their findings at this stage. Meanwhile, Mr and Mrs Talwar made some public statements about being hopeful that Aarushi’s cell phone yielding clues.
The Bulandshahr Superintendent of Police (City), J.K. Sahi, has been credited with saying a former domestic helper (or sweeper?) had given the handphone to someone in Uttar Pradesh.
Sep 17 2009
Ram Bhule’s sister Kusum Bhule found the cell phone by the side of the road in Noida sector 40. Kusum kept the phone for several months in her possession, waiting for someone to claim it. When Kusum thought no one would ask her about finding a cell phone, she gave the phone away to her brother as a present.
Did she not read or hear about the Talwars’ residence murder case?
Anil, Ram Bhule’s nephew, denied that there was a SIM Card in the phone. Anil also denied the presence of videos and photos in the phone.
Some reports claimed Kusum found the phone in a park.
Updated Sep 28
The slides were sent to the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) and kept for a month at the Department of Forensic Medicine. The chief of that Department, Dr TD Dogra, and Mr Talwar, are friends. Mr Talwar had worked as the senior eye surgeon at AIIMS. There is an unsupported,nagging accusation that Talwar may have influenced the subsequent actions involving the contamination/ switch of the slides.
Hemraj’s face was grievously mutilated and his corpse was abused to such an extent that he was identified using his clothes and bracelet (Kada).
Mr Talwar and Jeevan, Hemraj’s son-in-law, did not identify the body. Mr Talwar was said to have refused to identify Hemraj’s body. How odd.
Three persons acted as witnesses who identified Hemraj’s body. It was discovered that all three gave fake addresses. Needless to say, none can be located.
Nothing is clear cut in this case. May be, the body did not belong to Hemraj? After all, the victim was not properly identified. Even the witnesses have disappeared.
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May 19th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
god may bless arushi,s soul
plz? find the bloody kiler and give him a very bad punishment
May 20th, 2008 at 8:06 am
why parent used to lock her in her room every time?
how they are not aware of double murder inside their residence ?
hasn’t they locked arushi that fateful night ?
if yes who took the keys from their bedroom in the midnight ?
who locked the terrace after the murder of hemraj?
who cleaned the bloodstains from the stairs without any fear of being caught?
who dragged the body of hemraj.
why only servants, not her parents are questioned ?
what they are questioning police for their daughter’s murder.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Please read the updates. It might explain some things. Thanks for the interesting thoughts.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
The case is moving only around the servents why not the parents and her relatives. Why they are inactive.
May 20th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
There may be a strong case of the parents involved this. Why is the police behaving like a third class security agency. Is this what we pay them their salaries? Shameless fellows and shabby investigation. Some cops may also be involved. It is more then a case of murder. Were her parents doing something that they did not want their daughter to know or did the daughter do anything that upset the parents. Anyone with a 14 year daughter would try to meet her atleast once in a day or not? This is so disgusting!! Two people are killed and the police can’t even do a proper probe. Why are they not subjecting everyone suspected to a lie detector test???
May 20th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Let the soul of Arushi Talwar rest in peace.
The unfortunate murder of Arushi Talwar is a big black spot in the working style of Noida police. The mystery in double murder of Noida is getting much complex now. It is strange that the Noida police is behaving like a bunch of untrained professionals. Points which an ordinary person also can point out are missing from the eyes of the police. Will this case be solved ever? The way the police is investigating the case the answer could be a big “No”. The government should now do something about the working style of the police department and hand over the investigation to a responsible department.
May 20th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
No any father can be accused for killing without certain reason, but certain cercumstances indicate some foul play and involvement of some one very near to her.
May 20th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Have been watching this case on tv for such a long and i am amazed to have come to conclusion much before there is the revelation from the police as to who is the murdered. Her parents but obviously….
Killed by knife with precision…
Both murders happened at home…
Maids version different from parents….
All other suspects were not near the crime area…
Both cellphone missing…
Arushis matress on roof and found only next day…
How could have anyone else entered the house…
Intoxicant found in Hemrajs post mortem…
Parents were at home on the day of murder and not in clinic…
1> So this definatly includes Arushis involvement with someone and that went not too well with her parents and servant had a role to play…
2> It was pre planned
3> Arushis parents knew something about her personal life which she didnt knew that they are aware of
4> The murderer can come and do things but who locked the terrece ??? why will anyone even bother to keep Hemrajs murder hidden??
So its her parents i believe and we are yet to hear the final word from the polic…
May 21st, 2008 at 12:23 am
Some reports said that both parents returned home at 10 pm. That was why they had a late dinner at around 10:30 pm.
You have some good points. Thanks for sharing.
May 21st, 2008 at 4:19 am
yea everything can b justified..
but when all this twin murder hapnd i belive her parents were at home only.. nd cuttin slit n killing two of em won’t b jus an easy task to anyone.. nd yea ofcourse da victims might hav screamed or ran around… nd on the terrace to happen somtin like this ppl below wil atleast hear some sort of noise.. al this hapnd n stil da parents were sleeepin rock solid?!?!? wtf !! they din hear anytin wht so ever !! daz very hard to belive.
May 21st, 2008 at 5:26 am
parents involvement is very much clear.
even the ppl who were reading the reports can guess what might have happened .
why not the police giving it a second thought of involvement of parent ?
why unnecessarily they are grilling the servants and not even raising a finger towards parents ?
when parents shifted the blood-bathed mattress of Arushi why cant see hemraj’s dead body on the terrace & waited for someone else to discover it?
and if they have not shifted it who else done it?
the matress has not shifted without their knowledge i believe ?
why police allowed someone other than forensic & police touch the matress.
why police not taking the fingerprints on the glasses & bottle of liquor found in hemraj’s room?
everyday mr. talwar used to lock her from outside then what happened that night?
a. has he locked her ?
if yes whom did he gave the keys in the night ?
if anyone else came to borrow the keys ?
b. if not locked . why not ?
police is claiming hemraj & his friends were drinking that night , why mr. talwar allowed these activities in his residence till mid night.
even after that why he didnt he locked up the room as usual ?
i hope these question also arises in police team’s mind.
anyway my thanx to him/her/ them , whoever has created this blog.
May 21st, 2008 at 5:44 am
friends if we all can feel the things missed by police, can we join together and do something.
what u say ?
May 21st, 2008 at 7:21 am
i believe there must be some insurance money involved in the murder of the child. pubc should be given a free and on the parents, truth will come out in open. police are also invoved in the double murder.
May 21st, 2008 at 7:56 am
No doubt…it must be surely the parents…a very cruel case of honour killing maybe
May 21st, 2008 at 8:09 am
May GOD give peace to the soul of the dead.
What i realized in this case is that the role of police is very unprofessional & very irresponsible. Every one in INDIA, evan in small villages, who heard about this double murder mystery wants to know the truth & wishes a very crucial punishment to the murderer.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:53 am
I think she is not the real daughter. She must have found out from someone
May 21st, 2008 at 10:35 am
Are you people crazy??Why are you getting carried away by what the media has had to say about the parents and about her being beaten?There is no proof-absolutely no proof that she was being mistreated by her parents.The newshounds are just upset that unlike the normal chest-beating types who display their grief to the world the Talwars are being reticent and quiet in their grief.Give them some peace,how many of you have children who if they were murdered would bother about making statements to the media?Let the case be solved,if it ever will,the incompetence of the police is notorious,and then point fingers.Without a conviction,or at least proper evidence dont let yourself fall to the level of smuttiness where the first person you point a finger at is a destroyed broken father.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:58 am
May arushi’s soul rest in peace
My guess is that parents might have found a fishy relation ship between hemraj and arushi.
So they killed Aushi and then killed Hemraj later, so that they escape from the murder. Some parents only think about the social status and nothing else. NOIDA police should also enterrogate compounder Krishna, because he may be a helper in this murder. The only reason behind this cause is teen sex and nothing else. Its clear!
May 21st, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Ranjeetha’s questions are right………..
May 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Arushi will rest in peace only when her true killer is found.
To the People who are called police, be true in your investigation and do the justice. This is my request. A young bud is destroyed before it is bloomed.
May 21st, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Please don’t blame anyone. Let the Police fine out. The parents may beat and correct a child but that does not mean that they will kill her. She was a smart, friendly and social girl – these qualities would not have been in her if she was abused. No parents can kill their only daughter like that. They are doctors, they could have easily sedated her to sleep forever- why this gruesome murder which will haunt them forever. They must have given conflicting information to the Police in view of their immense grief and shock. I am sure she has been murdered as she witnessed a murder – in sudden fear and rage. May God help the detective find the reight killer of 2 innocent souls.
May 21st, 2008 at 4:47 pm
first of all, parents did not even hear any noise in the night?
secondly why they are not facing media?
Parents are the reason for this murder and they should be punished.
They must be hanged till death.
And all this situations simply proves that mr&mrs Talwar did this crime.
And how can police be so dumb and idiot they have not even investigated the home.
May 21st, 2008 at 6:36 pm
If everyone of us can think of these obvious unanswered questions, I’m sure it would have hit the minds of the police officers involved in the investigation. There are a lot of emotions flying around on this forum. I tend to agree with Naina in leaving the partnts alone for the time being. The myterious nature of this case has drawn unexpected attention, both public and media which has led to rumor frenzy.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:11 pm
I too agree with Naina & Asif. The media has been reporting many things that appear only to be conjecture a this point. I’m not sure why so many people want to be so quick to blame the parents in the absence of anything concrete to incriminate them. Let the police do their work – they claim they are close to a breakthrough.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:45 am
Do not blame the media. If the police had done a proper investigation & act as if to hush up something, media would not get involved.
May 22nd, 2008 at 9:40 am
mah her soul rest in peace. Could be that arushi bioligical mother was some one different. Maybe the woman who gave so many calls.
May 22nd, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Prakash, there is no doubt the police, especially the first set of investigators, have been derelict in their duties. That said, some media outlets, especially TOI & Asian Age , have been reporting just about any rumour. I’ll give credit to NDTV & Indian Express for being more restrained and professional.
May 22nd, 2008 at 7:49 pm
1. Arushi’s father used to lock the room from outside daily. This suggests that he did not trust her completely and he was a strict/hot-tempered father.
2. Arushi’s father made several calls to a fellow lady doctor, which suggests that there might be something bet’n these two.
3. Arushi’s maternal uncle is called for questioning, which suggests that there could be some complications between Arushi’s parents for which her uncle questioned.
4. Hemraj and arushi, both were killed in a similar way, and inside the house itself that too with a doctor’s precision! And the father was vague in his answers to the cops.
All these points suggest that the father of the girl was not stable and there might have been something between Arushi and Hemraj the servant. The father might have in a fit of anger killed both of them. The maids might have been instructed/paid to not divulge anything to the cops. Guys, this is what I think would have happened…
May 22nd, 2008 at 9:08 pm
May both the souls rest in peace!
It is also possible that the parents were just beating her because of her relationship with Hemraj. Maybe Arushi was pregnant…God knows. maybe they had already had an abortion done or were planning one that is why so many calls to the lady doctor.
So it is possible they were beating Arushi on that fateful night out of anger and frustration. In the process she got head injuries and died. After they realized she had died they got mad at Hemraj because he was the cause for all this. SO they killed him and then wanted to show Arushi’s death also as a part of murder committed by someone else to save their own skin…So went back and slit her neck to show it as murder.
I personally believe parents are involved and they have probably disposed off the weapon in the ganges along with teh ashes.
May 22nd, 2008 at 11:30 pm
To Dear Arushi, May ur beautiful soul find peace in haven. And i pray to god that ur killer should be punished, very badly, in as well as after his life..
God bless U
May 23rd, 2008 at 2:33 am
Arushi,
You are now in heaven. If ever there is a thing called Moksha may you find freedom from this cycle of life and death.
To the murderers–choose life over death; choose forgivness over revenge and ego. Why did you snuff out a young life yet to live its fullest?
Arushi, I feel for you. Both my parents were also killed in a similar manner 30 years ago. Arushi please Forgive the evil that is in human.
Nirmal Chaudhary,
Richmond, Virginia, USA
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:49 am
Why did the parents keep a male servant in the house when they had a teenage daughter and the parents were not at home most of the time.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 am
1. When courier boy delivered camara and that received by her parents and they given it to her daughter why not they own purchaged and given to her that will also be a surprise gift. Else whats the meaning or surprise gift.
2. When arushi,s parents were not on duty for whole day where they were ?
3. The lady doctor friend of Dr Rajesh Talwar was also not on duty where she was ?
4. When they come to home at 10 PM when they left the home in morning ?
5. When arushi left for the school ?
6. When arushi come back to home ?
7. How they know the dore is locked from out side and she threw the key whether they try to open it or not ?
8. If they are known that gate is locked from out side why they dont called a neighber to open it.
9. How they know gate is locked and threw the key it might also be possible Just it not locked with a lock and key.
10. Why they were in too hurry to go hardwar ?
11. Were they not smelled a decomposing body in their house ?
12. After come back from school does arushi call to her parents ? if yes on that day she called or not ?
13. As hemraj not had his food. Have they tried to call him where he is ? and What he is doing on roof or he was present in his room.
14. Does hemraj,s Rooms another door open out of the house it is have 2 door. If so some one may go out by this door lock the outer gate and come inside with the same gate and close it from inside.
15. Does police collected finger prints from both the door of hemraj ?
16. Was the gift (camara given by arushi,s parents) was opened or Just covered with wrapping material as Just delivered by teh courier boy.
17. When they purchaged the camara ?
18. This was supplied by the showroom owner or her parents booked this with any courier service provider.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:37 am
May the souls of Arushi and Hemraj rest in peace.
I think it is unjust to blame the parents for now. They must be going through immense trauma. Changing versions of their statements may not be intentional. It is rather naive to allege that the plot obviously indicates the parents are murderers. They are intelligent human beings; if they were murders they would not have plotted a murder inside their home such that the plot pointed towards them as murderers. Moreover, I don’t believe Arushi was a ill treated child instead she was well treated which kept her social and jolly. It is fateful that she was killed so brutally.
Please don’t add sensation by saying things like, “Maybe Arushi was pregnant.” The autopsy report has not mentioned any such thing. Plus, saying “there might have been something between Arushi and Hemraj” is so irrational. A student from DPS has better options and opportunities than a Nepali servant. Please respect the honor and integrity of the deceased girl. The Indian media is creating enough sensation already…which I would like to term as ‘irresponsible journalism.’ Just give them next 24 hours and they’ll find a new mystery and completely forget about Arushi.
However, I agree with some comments made by Ranjeeta and Naina.
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:09 am
May the souls of Arushi and Hemraj rest in peace.
That’s true that the media is very irresponsible.
They telecast this issue whole day with some advertisements in between just to increase their TRP ratings. As a citizen the media persons should provide help to police to resolve this case quickly. Now it has become like a daily TV serial. TV says ” What will happen to Parents and will police be able to find the real culprit, please stay tuned to know more about after the break”
So far we do not know who is compounder who has been missing or what?
Who is the friend of Arushi’s father? Is that doctor questioned in this regard.
Folks we are in 2008 and still the police are unable to trace the call records of Arushi’s & hemraj mobile numbers.
Police could not prove that Arushi and Hemraj were first treated with cloroform adn then killed.
Doctors know much about this?#@#
This is the case with every incident that happens in India.
How far there is truth about the current happenings?
So far no neighboour is invistagate in thsi regard no opinions are taken from them.
I think all this issue came up with the Camera.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:31 am
This is NOT the INDIA I created and this is NOT why I created MEN/WOMEN & beautiful KIDS!!!
INDIANS have become Westernized too. See, where the problem has come from? STRESSful life for MONEY, MATERIALISTIC SOCIAL STATUS and a Meaningless Life! Alas, the Parents couldn’t take of their own daughter, becoz of MONEY & Stupid Status!!
Until one does not know what he/she has born for (or) who he/she is, all this can happen always. What a poor life this is?
>> This life is so small, this earth is very tiny, the milky way galaxy is just a DOT in this Universe.. Hey, is this a MULTIverse? WHERE ARE YOU?? <<
KNOW “WHO” YOU ARE – Only then YOU would have PEACE in life and hence WORLD PEACE can materialize.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:53 am
I agree Ranjeeta is right…all valid questions.
BTW I am not trying to make it sensational. Talking about the autopsy report – the time of the death is also being questioned. How do you know it is a correct report?
Also I never said the parents planned the murder. I was saying they were probably beating her up and an accident happened. The second murder could be because Hemraj saw the accident or for other reasons.
How can you say the child was treated well? A well treated child is not locked in her room every night. being social and jolly does not mean she was well treated. How do you know her being social and jolly itself was not the issue…
Also if you see the call trend she used to get an SMS before she called the people back. Why was this?
How come the parents never looked for Hemraj in the house?
How come the neighbour saw the blood on the stairs and parents did not?
Why did the parents not call the cops when they
saw their daughter’s body?
What was the hurry to got to Haridwar?
Tons of questions are still unanswered and looking at data the parents seem to be the most probable culprits at teh moment. I really hope aand wish it is not true though…
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:24 am
There is a possible angle of hemraj blackmailing talwars for his relations with arushi and arushi was also helping him.Please check the bank accounts of hemraj.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:35 am
am also agree with those people who claimed her parents.
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:15 am
It was definitely an event with a motive called “Honour Killing”. Using a Surgical Scapel to Both Arushi Talwar and Hemraj as they both had similar wounds on their necks which were probably done by only professional user i.e a doctor. The Police Need to know about the personal life of Dr. Rajesh Talwar and need to undergo with Lie detection test on him. Another inquiry could be made with the friend of Arushi whom she use to share the words more (633 Calls in 45 days) I hope the clear picture of her mental status and problems could be reveled by this act. Dr. Rajesh need to undergo with high surveillance and under arrest due to circumstantial evidences.
KILLING A PERSON FOR ANY CAUSE/ REASONS IS NOT PERMISSIBLE IN A GOOD SOCIETY.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:26 am
Guys,
Watch out killer may be the either one of the following person.
1. Aarushi Parents
2. Vishnu
3. Aarushi Neighbours or Relatives
4. Hemraj Relatives or Neighbours
If Police trace these four. They will surely find the Murderer.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:57 am
I guess that may be parents would have know about the sexual involvement of their daughter and may be that would have created anger (Killing daughter Arushi)
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:00 am
No father will be killing daughter just for nothing until and unless he has a right reason
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:10 am
There are few MMS which were all around india of Arushi that would have been the reason of father killing daughter Arushi
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 am
Advice to Police:
Check out the (Boy) friends of Arushi who were the main reason for father killing daughter Arushi
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:15 am
Please cheque all the possible aspects before the claiming any name in the case
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:15 am
well to be quiet honest im quiet appalled with the entire mess created by the noida police. i also suspect the parents to be involved in the crime, i mean think about it, what kind of parents do not coorperate with the police to find the killer of their only daughter…the police should have interrogated the couple thoroughly, i wont be suprised if these guys are buying cops off…mayb thtts why nothing is being done till now…n ya now apparantly they need nother 15 days to solve this crime…im sorry but i think the mystery behind 9/11 was solved quicker…
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:20 am
Unknown Says:
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:00 am
No father will be killing daughter just for nothing until and unless he has a right reason
EXCUSE ME…WHOEVER THIS IS…LOOK I DONT KNOW WHERE YOUVE GOT YOUR THEORIES FROM…BUT SWEETY THERE NEVER IS ANY “RIGHT REASON” TO KILL ANYONE…AND REALLY YOUR TALKING ABOUT THE “RIGHT REASON”… HOW DO YOU DEFINE RIGHT…I DONT LIKE YOUR THEORY BOUT THE “RIGHT REASON REQUIRED FOR FATHER TO KILL DAUGHTER”…MAYB I SHD GET YOU KILLED NOW…OR MAYB YOUR MOTHER DOESNT LIKE YOUR FACE…YA I THINK THTS THE “RIGHT REASON” TO KILL YOU AINT IT??? LIKE PEOPLE PLEASE LETS NOT TALK FROM YOUR ASSES…
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:26 am
Guys…. Its all over now…. Father is the culprit…. SHOULD BE HANGED IN PUBLIC….
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am
The latest news update said that Rajesh Talwar has been arrested…
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:09 pm
police is just escaping media by blaming it blindly on parents without any solid evidence.
making just its own stories
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Let the soul of Arushi Talwar rest in peace.
The unfortunate murder of Arushi Talwar is a big black spot in the working style of Noida police.
To Dear Arushi, May ur beautiful soul find peace
in haven. And i pray to god that ur killer should be punished, very badly, in as well as after his life..
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:35 pm
very unfortunate event and very interesting blog. Reflets, how different people interpreted same facts so differently. Ranjeeta you should be in police!
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:44 pm
so now the truth is out. even mere mention of this case – anyone can tell who are killer or killers. no one came from outside or gone outside. everything happened in the midnight between 4 walls. how can be father can kill only daughter for his extra marital affairs? if he object the closeness between the hemaraj and Aarushi – he is the reason for that.in adolencence age girls need support from parents , not from servants. when he is forgot his age n daughter & having affair with fellow doctor – think of the child – what she must have gone through where went his honour now? to jail? he is butcher not a doctor . he must be hanged till death
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:52 pm
hello to all, Aarushi’s father arrested for her and Hemaraj’s murder. he and his ‘keep’ she also a dr both confessed the crime and arrested by police.he is the bloody murderer. what his ‘honour’ the people are speaking abut? where gone his honour now? blood is boiling – really. if he want to spent his life with his stepny -he should have gone with her. why he took the life the young child .if god is there he should not die so easily , he should be begger – begging for death but death should not come
May 23rd, 2008 at 2:05 pm
even hanging is is very low punishment for rajesh
May 23rd, 2008 at 2:08 pm
HANG THAT SO CALLED FATHER>>>PLEASSEEEEEEEEEEEEE
May 23rd, 2008 at 2:10 pm
please think why hemraj has been killed with arushi or viceversa.
there is a link between this.
try to find the relation between arushi and hemraj.
who entered the home that night no body observed this.
why hemraj was killed on terrace.
if is honor killing why so brutally,there were other easy ways,e.g INTOXICATION,ACCIDENT OR ETC.
why hemraj was not replaced with real servant vishnu?
why we did not compared on location finger prints with vishnu’s one?
why matress was thrown up?
how arushi was discharged?
is police realy serious in probing or that traditional drama.
why parents of arushi did not appear publicily to describe what happened that night.
Any many more.
i think it is honor cum professional jelousy killing involving parents and ex servant or either of them.
there mustb be somethin in the heart of hemraj for arushi or there was someone whom arushi parents disliked strongly and she was to take any decision.
frens of arushi should be asked about this.
over all it is clear that parents and police know each and every thing so this MYSTERY should be ENDED as soon as possible cause departed soul’s intgrity is being spoiled and vitiated.who already suferrd something earlier and ……
Also if parents are not invloved it is teasing for them.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:27 pm
so sad i cant belive that a father killed her daughter plz HANG THIS PERSON LIKE ANIMAL SON OF BITCH
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Call this the Swiss Cheese case – there are so many holes in the police story. Talk about twisting the story to suit your needs. There is nothing in the mattress being found on the neighbour’s balcony – it was moved with police permission. It’s nonsense that someone talking on a phone at midnight could not be in a deep sleep at 1 or 1:30 a.m. Add on to that there is nothing but very circumstantial evidence, and no confession (there has not been a confession; in fact Rajesh Talwar has denied involvement), it’s hardly a slam dunk case. I’m not saying the father didn’t do it, but I don’t see enough to say he did. Details will come, and hopefully before the trial.
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:08 pm
How can the body be cremated before the case has been solved,please dont make loose comments of her pregnancy etc….. with out evidence, as she is not alive to speak for her self
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Is this why they used to lock their teen daughter everyday? If, so, then what should be done to her father who’s having extra-marital relationships with his mistress. He was so much enraged seeing his own daughter with a servant?!? What does he think about HIS OWN relationship outta marraige???
What a SHAMEFUL FATHER HE IS, how he could even raise fingers at his own daughter JUST TO SAVE HIS OWN SKIN. He can’t be her father, impossible. He just cant be so. HE IS NOT EVEN WORTH ANYBODY’S HATRED. And btw, why we shld talk abt him alone. His wife, mistress too are murderers of Aarushi-the little angel. They shld also be arrested and put together behind bars.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:26 pm
I think the story is yet not clear and there are lots of facts that r still hidden… Its really shame that her own father is the real culprit… There might b few others who too may b involved…….
People dont mind but i feel that Arushi wasnt Mr. Talwar real child(It should b verified but i may b wrong .. Its just my gut feeling…) I dont know if Hemraj was their servant 14 yr back since Arushi resembles to him .
Lets c wht more twist this story have for us…
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:13 pm
i jus want to say that how can a father kill his only daughter whom he was caring and loving so much i think mr. talwar is not the real suspect.i think the police and media should stop spoiling the image of a 14 yrs innocent girl and arushis parents too………
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:16 pm
hey
friends
14 years is not the age for knowing whats right or wrong. this is the age when a child needs parents not death>
there are people who know answers to what happened
who sent the camera
what was in it
someone hss hinted about who her real mother was whose daughter is she. pls tell us
lets put answers to the questions
lets help the angel sleep
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:33 pm
i feel sad when his father is claming about Arushi’s relationship with hemraj i am sure this is to gain soft cornors .. but what ever happened should have never happened. even animals dont kill there babes.
parents have right only to give life to there child and have no right to take it away. for that matter,
no human has right to take any ones life.
i hope both of there lifes rest in peace and i hope the justice will be done
o baby u really dint deserve this- i hope u will have better parents in u r next birth- god bless you
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Only Shame Fulllllllllllll
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:27 pm
If Aarushi (RIP) was having a relationship with Hemraj (RIP) who was alomst 3 times her age and her father killed them in a fit of anger because he found them in an inappropriate position.
This is a big lie which his father is telling and ruining the name of her dead girl (by the way i heard he was her step dad) just to get some lighter sentence from the court.
Even I have seen kids of that age they go to school in the morning, come back for lunch to home and then go to tutions and somtimes get bashed up by there parents, for not doing homework or being naughty in school or home. Then they go for there tutions. By her age i guess she must have been promoted to class 9th, as she was good in her studies. I personaly do not think she will have time to get pally with a domestic help.
If the police believes this story of a murderer that this is an honour killing then that Police should work on this theory also That Rajesh Talwar was gay and had relatioship with all his Domestic Helps, When he found his lover Hemraj with Aarushi he got angry and Killed them both.
This is the best theory which I can think of.
Or my solution to the murder mystery is that Hemraj was blackmailing Dr. Rajesh Talwar as he had got some proof of his extramaratial affair. and would have started to extort money or give him bad name in the nehbourhood and talwar’s wife. On the fatefull night Dr. Talwar and Hemraj had a drink on the terrace itself and Hemraj had asked for more money. Talwar attacked him with watever he found and when hemraj was unconcious he bought a sclaple and cut his neck. when hemraj tried to run to save his life he fell near the stairs. and his hand touched the wall which is the bloody palm.
All the commotion was heard by Aarushi as she was surfing the net or playing with her camera, she came out and saw her father killing Hemraj. SHe tried to talk to her father that he has done a wrong thing but the small kid was of no match to a drunkard who had just killed a man. he dragged aarushi to her room and asked her to shutup but when she started to shout he killed Aarushi also.
After killing Aarushi He then went to the terrace again hid the body and cellphone of Hemraj he then went again to Aarushi’s room to cover Aarushis body and hide her phone also. Drank some more surfed some porn and went to sleep.
While her wife was doing whatever she did but did not come out. or what ever lie / truth she will tell.
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:45 pm
after reading this i remember a very old joke. once a deer was left in the jungle and UK police, USA police and UP poile was sent behind the deer UK police found the deer in 2 days USA Police in 4 Days then came the turn of UP police it could not turn up with the deer after 4 months they organizers said we have to end the competition either find the deer or get lost within 4 hours hours UP police asked for a press confrence saying that they have found the deer. in the press confrence they bought a lion whose eves where bleeding all the nails & teeth where broken and he was shouting “main hi hiran hun – Main hi hiran hun” so they have found a deer and that deer is saying that his daughter was in a relationship that’s y he killed her and her lower. so u can understand from my story that the story given by UP police is full of donkey and pig shit and nothing else
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:56 pm
I feel that double-murder was done by Aarushi’s father. Now question is why n why her Mom is still silent? Actually the statement of police that Talwar family n Durrani family has a wife-swaping practice seems true. This was something which Aarushi didn’t like n many times she had a high tension quarrel with her parents. I think, that on 15th night as per police statement Aarushi’s parents went to somewhere at 9.30 PM n came back at 11.30 PM but I feel that they went to Durrani’s house n had some funfilled illicit sex there n on return it was not Mrs. Talwar accompanied but Mrs. Durrani came with Mr. Talwar n Mrs. Talwar stayed back with Mr. Durrani at his place for whole night fun – sex. When Aarushi came to know in night that Dad has come with Mrs. Durrani, she objected heavily n being in drunk situation Mr. Talwar killed her on sudden provocation. While this whole drama going on Mrs. Durranni didn’t opposed..n when Mr. Talwar did realise that what mistake he has done, he had no choice but to kill his servant too. Afterwards, I think Mrs. durrani come to know abt. this murder n she came back at home n Mrs. Durrani went back to her home. In this whole case, becuase AArushi’s mother was with Mr. Durrani, so she can’t give any statement now. Tell me, how can a mother be killer or be silent for murder of her daughter, even if it is done by Mr. Talwar. There is something wrong that was happening in that family, which she is hiding becoz she is also involved in it n it’s a matter of honour so she has kept quite. If Police will investigate properly then they can find out the mobility of Mr. Talwar n Durrani’s Vehicles on 15th of night from neighbours or colony watchman.
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
I have watched this murder news from the 16th may itself, n from that day only i was thinking that her parents might have only killed this little angel. how can parents do such a cheap thing with thei only child. they are not human beings, but they are animals, even animals not kill their own kids, but AARUSHI’s parents….. shame on them….
Happy Birthday Little Angel, Little Sister AARUSHI, may ur soul rest in peace, u r really lucky little angel that u went to god in ur early days as god calls to him the one’s whom he loves more, atleast u have gone to heaven now from this cruel hell…. u will be always remembered by us…. and u will be always in our heart dear angel…
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:11 pm
I agree with detective brain…. something dam wrong with in Durrani and Talwar family……..
May 24th, 2008 at 3:14 am
Whether UP police is able to find the actual killer or not, it has no business to malign Arushi’s character without any supporting evidence and that too when neither Arushi nor Hemraj are there to refute or clarify. Based in Noida we do not want Noida Police to be so busy , let us face the truth, it is beyond their calibre. Let them do their regular job of collecting money from the Blue line buses, Autos, Tempos etc. while maintaining their data meticulously. In the Press conference IG police was boasting that the life of Hemraj could have been saved if tried to approach Police on receiving death threat. It was a nice joke. Try reaching even a SHO of police station in Noida and you will know the truth. And yes I have written evidence to support my claim unlike Noida Police who should have been working at Bollywood, for they are fit to work there only. God bless Arushi’s soul and I hope that wiser sense will prevail over the police personnel and they will stop character assasination of a defenceless soul
May 24th, 2008 at 3:20 am
Detective Brain you do have a vivid imagination…
Interestingly, Anita Durrani apparently isn’t being interrogated, or at least she’s not any more because she was on NDTV saying she has not been interrogated and that there was no affair.
There’s something about this case that has not come out – there’s a missing piece or pieces. I don’t think we should be passing judgement on the parents and writing what I can only call cruel and careless statements. As Dinesh Talwar said the other day, imagine it was your family in this situation.
May 24th, 2008 at 4:21 am
Anita durrani is also being interogated, besides nupur. May God bless Aarushi’s soul…..
May 24th, 2008 at 6:26 am
well……….., ther is 1 thing more in all this hotchpotch that aarushi got a msg on her orkut profile the day before she was murdered saying ” tommorow is the most crucial day of ur life”. now what does this mean, if talwar s did this, why wud mr. talwar would qct or msgd in a dramatical way. is any 4th prson involved? he wud instantly hav murdrd her wtht even massaging her. ther is something very fishy . how did blood stains came on stairs if hamraj was murderd on terrace? if any child knows about his or her parent s reprobate character, then this cant be the ample reason for a particular person to murder his own blood. i m really very sad for aarushi s tragic end………. may she be ther singing in heaven while her killer howling in hell. i ll pray this all my life
May 24th, 2008 at 8:57 am
please dont get too attached to the scenario come out of it and analyze you will understand the actual problem associated with the murder. This sort of problems are common world wide but this is just the beginning of districtions. You will see such type of more cases in future people should get ready for more scenerios in future.
Ref:13
May 24th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Please do not make your own view regarding the issues and do not conclude
May 24th, 2008 at 9:02 am
Handover the case to CBI to get a clear picture of the issue Police has just missguided and delayed in collecting he evidance. There might be possibilities that father would have take the murder on him to save some one.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:07 am
I have an MMS of Arushi having sex with one of his boy friend i can upload this if the site provides me upload option
I hope this can give some help to police to get into the core of this issue
May 24th, 2008 at 9:18 am
missing is mobile is just because the phone would have contain the same MMS
Secret – Give the evidence to the CBI. Thanks.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:06 am
fuck u Unknown n fuck u Secret. she’s dead for heaven’s sake. just leave her alone n dnt u talk of her so lightly.
hey people listen up.Secret could be lying for all we know abt d MMS thg.He\she could b someonr who hated Arushi’s guts or perhaps d person who killed her
May 24th, 2008 at 11:09 am
tink abt wt aching soul says people. n u cops n detectives tink abt it 2. anybody listening?
May 24th, 2008 at 11:13 am
to aarushi
may ur soul rest in peace n may ur murderer whoever it is die a death more brutal than d one u died.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:17 am
people someone has deleted all Aerushi’s friends,her communities and everything frm her profile on orkut except her location. so that means someone knows frm her on orkut.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
… Guys think !!!…
Aarushi, is a good looking 14yr old girl, who is smart enough to be on orkut, have a social group..njoy with friends…talk about teenage matters and discuss with friends!?! what is the need for her to have “an affair” with a 47yr old man who is her servant maid, and is as old as her father!!!!… where are the police’s brain!?.. are they thinking or just making a story for the sake of telling something???
the poor girl’s soul might not be in peace… with all this nonsense going on ?…
1 ) i have not read or heard any where that she was locked from out ( until i read it here )
2) where r the cell phones?!
3) y is the “friendly” lady Dr. not questioned?!
what was the need of Rajesh calling her 6 times
in the same night?! ( is this not a good point
that he was so possessed by her, that he would
remove ANY obstacle in between ( even his own
only daughter )
4) how is the mother so cold blooded?! why is she
not reacting to all the remours, after all its
her daughter’s image going to ruins…
or is she so open minded and comfortable with
her husband’s extra marital affairs?!
5) it also could have been that the murder of
Hemraj was done by both the parents, without
fear, but unfortunately witnessed by Aarushi,
and she threatened to inform the police and
hence…
6) is the mother protecting her husband?
7) why did Aarushi get a present on that night?
she could get it on her birtday itself, which
was not far at all…what was the occasion!?
turn up?!.. so late? 10pm ? who does the
cooking ? sure Aarushi cant manage a full meal
for night?!… dont they have a cook coming
home?!
9) servants always have rumors about their masters
and mistresses… i am sure we all have
experienced this ?? BUT… why to get so wild
about it? till the extend of killing someone?!
10) What exactly did the police do, if they have
no finger prints? not had a proper autopsy on
the poor girl ? whats the use of knowing that
Hemraj had alcohol in his stomach, when he
was known to be a drinker?!?! is this all it
took to find out for a whole week?! great !?
i am so sorry for what is going on … may the
killer be found as soon possible…
may their souls rest in piece… amen….
May 24th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
i forgot to put this point too…
— how come in the hot climate in Noida.. no one could get the smell of decomposing body of Hemraj on the terrace?!.. and they found the body so late?
— who has locked the gate from out!?.. why will any one lock the gate from out?!.. any residential colony or apartment will lock the gate from inside… then what is the need for the mother to throw the keys from up for the servant to open the gate?!?!?
GOD …. police is just sleeping!?!? some one give them this blog site’s address so that they can get some ideas at least !!!!
istead of making stupid stories…
May 24th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
This Murder could not have happened impulsively. If it was planned by the Father then it was planned very badly. Firstly no parent would arrange a camera gift for his child, have dinner with the her and then go into her room to murder her. There could have been many other opportunities and ways to get rid of the servant and the daughter – if the parents really had to plan it out.
Also it is possible for parents not to hear the noises in the next room , especially if the Rajesh had consumed liquor before sleeping and then his wife dozing off being tired after day’s work.
More than one person was involved in Hemraj’s murder as his dead body was dragged before being covered by the lid of the Airconditioner. So did the police not check for any slippers , footwear in the house that may have some traces of blood on its soles. What about the clothes ? Fingerprints etc., So many gaps still.
I do not think that the father committed the crime. I think it is the Noida Police that committed this murder.
May 24th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
What is the outcome of questioning aarushi’s friends. If she was disturbed she must have confided something in her friends and especially Anmol. The said relationship of aarushi with Hemraj seems just a make up story either by her father or someone else….
Her must be aware of much more than her parents.
May 24th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
her friend’s must be aware of much more than her parents and police
May 25th, 2008 at 12:17 am
Her father is murderer . Bloody hell i am very angry her father that he killed her because she knows his illegally relationship. All parents pray for god her/his child for the long life he taken his daughter life own bloody hands shame on him . i pray for god that please dont give that type of parents anybody give poor parents no problem but give good sense of humor.
May 25th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
i cannt imagine how come parents can do such a thing… thy r animals..the girl was so unfortunate to born here. parents are so selfless and these r so selfish. look at their age and the lack of maturity they have.the stage where parents think of their child and his/her future these ppl oh my god thy r shit. ..if tehs ekind of cases happen ppl wud never believe their family members ..world wud b hell
May 25th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
24th MAY —Happy Birthday Little Angel, Little Sister AARUSHI, may ur soul rest in peace, u r really lucky little angel that u went to god in ur early days as god calls to him the one’s whom he loves more, atleast u have gone to heaven now from this cruel hell…. u will be always remembered by us…. and u will be always in our heart dear angel…
and sure killer very soon in the jail . god bless y in heaven .
May 25th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
After one long week of operation clean up when every evidence has been cleaned and clered
Dr Talwar has been arrested just to please the media and persons with detective instinct who were saying from the first day that father is the culprit.
Now the operation clear up is started with his wife,relatives ,freinds and servents on differant channels are saying that he is innnocent.
May 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
now it is clear up to some extent that mr talwar is the real culprit. bt in india justice is always raped by these high profile brutes….why cops washed off all the clues…… when the investigations were not even started yet.i dont think justice would b done to aarushi s soul.pleeeeeeeeeeeez hang those rascals……… whole of them
May 25th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Its totally unbeliveable that father’s become accused for killing her daughter thats say’s that the world is really going into a big and big tense where now no discipline no limit of socialism ? Is that a world and people living in that where at oneside big debates on peace and at other side we are looking such crimes today is what’s up now to this world?
May 26th, 2008 at 4:29 am
Media reports what it’s made to see and believe. Just like the rest of us, they report from the scene and the rest is opinions and perspectives. Their attempt is noble. Let’s look at the focal point. When good meaning folks indulge in bedroom talk and don’t come out and support like-minded people, the evil fellows head the roost. We all must make a concentrated effort in giving perspectives to such cases and help solve the case. So that it works like a ready reckoner, to avoid another incident and help blow the whistle in time. Was a professional hired for the job?
May 26th, 2008 at 6:53 am
i strongly think its just a matter of blackmailing… by ther servant,
master cuold not take it..and killed him in anger… daughter witnessed and threatened him to tell to everyone….so they had to get rid of her, coz of their family status…..
thats it!?!?…
May 26th, 2008 at 7:33 am
The problem here is lots of information is circulating in the media without any concrete evidence.Everyone feels inclined to write their analysis of the whole affair without thinking.No father can kill his or her daughter PERIOD.Its mere conjecture.If you see arushi `s pictures she was a happy child and hearing Nupur`s interview it makes sense.Police is framing the father,cos none of the reasons cited are good enough to murder two people.It is a job of aprofessional which has been excuted with deadly precision.At no point has Rajesh mentioned of anything between arushi and the servant.Its the police hypothesis.
The focus needs to be on an investigation on Hemraj`s background cos Arushi`s murder was incidental and not the primary motive.
Media is holding a parallel trial based on fiction rather than facts.The family needs people support and not rumor mongering.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Here everyone seems to just give away their own judgements regarding the Brutal death of the young girl, Arushi and Hemraj.
I do agree that the Noida Police had not done their investigations properly, as they missed all basic things which even a common person would look for.
Even the Media seems to act very unprofessionally and in an unhumanitarian way as they are more interested in making a story rather than waiting for the STF to come out with their results about the murder.
I feel we must have some concern about fellow human beings and before coming out with any views , rationalise and alteast be sure that what we talk have some logic and sense because when we pen down something false or untrue , it hurts the person who has not done it.
So before pointing fingers on anyone, lets wait for the results from STF clearly.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
plz god if u r here plz do somthing abt cute aarush.
find her fucker killer.
May 26th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Pray that Arushi soul rests in peace.
I wonder why Vishnu , the ex-domestic help is not being located.He must the only the alternative suspect as :
1) he is still missing.
2)he has a motive to kill Hemraj for not giving him his spot in the house and aarushi as her parents did not care him to replace hemraj.
3)the mobiles could have been taken away by him or would have thrown somewhere around the house- police may have to look into possible places such as the drianage, water tank,on the shades of flats , in the garden area` etc.
4)it is eported thatsome one called from a publc booth -is could be Vishnu.
5) Vishnu could have been let in by hemraj or he himself could have been hiding in the house before resorting to the killings when the doctor couple has gone to bed.6) whether the mobiles of aarushi and hemarak switched off or ringing? if ringing, they wd have been thrown some where.If switched off, they wd have been switched off by Vishnu.
Wish police resort to investigation in the above angles.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Its better forensic experts can be called in. I hope
they can get aid from foreign private forensic medical team. but the thing is the girls been creamated I suppose. Anyways this is just a peice of cake for those guys. They can track withind a matter of hours.
May 27th, 2008 at 9:46 am
What about that Hand Mark found … why not Police check that whose finger prints is that ? check with the Rajesh Talwar finger print . if they will not match then some other person also involve with the murder . and if person is very near from the family then its easily caught by Police……… I dont know why people ignoring that
May 27th, 2008 at 10:37 am
we all miss aarushio if indian cops can t solve this murder case then take the help of other country cops it will help u
May 27th, 2008 at 10:38 am
long live aarushi bull shit indian police and media
May 27th, 2008 at 11:59 am
May Aarushi’s Soul Rest in Peace…
The Police has againg proved themselves utmost incompetent… Crime Scene Invetigation was squandered, no sufficient evidences were collected… Luminol test are still not done to find the wiped traces of blood… Location of Hemraj’s cell phone not traced when the call was made in the morning after his death… Father (maybe mother too) involvement almost certain… Motive of the murder still unclear… Media/Press pouncing on the lesser competent Police making them less efficient… Why don;t we Outsource this case to some smart agencies like FBI…
May 27th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
everyone have at home same age girls either daughter, sister or any other relationship.how can SECRET can say such things to a girl who even we dont know? how many people believe 14yrs is a age to deal- or say anything like that with so many such bad remarks Mr.SECRET says?There are so many lapses in this from the begining- like no one from the family spoke to the media or police allow them to speak. only guesses??????????becuase murder happened in the night with only family members&servant was there. 2 died 2left . so everyone is guessing one must be a murderer. we have to see it from differentsides. she is only child after 11yrs of marriage.she must be percious.they are well known doctors with handsome earnings.if she is not there where else or to whom all the property goes? Dr.Rajesh Talwar’s parents or dr.Nupur’s parents lives nearby. Is they handed over extra keys to anyone whom they knows well? but failure in the part of police made a real culprit escape from law? like it happened long before ine cases of GEETA CHOPRA & SANJAY CHOPRA murder case??????/ any well knows influence person involved in aarushi’s murder , and police is in hurry to protect those influencial persons?
Only god and Aarushi should know the truth.
in US Police took the help of MEDIUM’s help to solve difficult cases . why can not here police take some help from any Dongi babas
May 27th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Pls don’t think illogical.
Being father of only child girl, I know this is just unimaginable to accept the police theory. these police man may be idiots but not the whole mass.
My full sympathy with Dr Noopur for her brave face shown in media. May Almighty God give you enough strength to face this difficult situation. I will feel happy if I get a chance to do something for you.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Why police is not inquiring about the unknown orkut blogger? Can’t they recover the blog information n let the truth come out. Who so ever is killer, it can’t be Dr Rajesh.
A mother can’t lie in such a difficult situation. Police should turn their investigation in some other direction aka who may be beneficiary in case of Aarushi murder, who is this unknown orkut user etc etc.
May 28th, 2008 at 9:41 am
Well Guys ,someone told me its all over the net by name my_janu or something i suppose
May 28th, 2008 at 9:42 am
commo this is so stupid… if sumthing strange has happened at home …. first of all one will report the police… in this case hemraj has aske d his driver to remove the bed and all that stuff…. police and media are trying to do things which r not acpetable….
May 28th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Hi,
I have no relation with Aarushi’s family…but still i feel soo sorry for the tragedy happened with the Talwar’s family…I am with Aarushi’s family all the time….May Aarushi’s sole rest in peace….May ALLAH give her family some peace….n i pray with ALLAH for the Talwars to overcome all the bad times they are going through……
Elyas (ANNU)
Chicago, IL
elyas.mohd@gmail.com
May 28th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Have known Dr Durani personally – she has been my dentist, and is a very able and considerate person. For NOIDA police to bring out such allegations again speaks on the rot in the system.
May 29th, 2008 at 8:38 am
The brutal manner in which aarushi was murdered just reflects 2 wat extent da human mind has stooped down…its a disgrace to humanity…i knw aarushi u r n a much better place nw..the entire country is with u…the killer will b pushed behind bars…may u get all da happiness in heaven which u right fully deserve sweetheart…gud bye…god bless..
May 29th, 2008 at 9:14 am
may the soul of the sweet little girl rest in peace….pls dont defame that little girl’s image.children are the incarnations of gods.will anyone defame gods………first solve the case .do the work and then come on to conclusions.people should learn to accept their fauls.realize first that the police was inefficient then talk about characters……….first look at ur own character……..servants will only speak what they think as they are meant to think in a really vulgur manner as their atmosphere is that way.pls appoint the officials who are well educated and who have dedi cation towards their work……..not those who only knows how to blame and how to make anyone a scpegoat.may god bless arushi talwar’s parents if they are innocent and may god give justice to her soul.pls find the brutal killer and stop making the innocents scape goats.
May 29th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Its very tragic that a well known family of educated persons are going through such trauma. Even though personally as a parent I cannot even imagine Arushi’s parents could possibly be involved but with the limited info without any evidence given by the police its really a mystery. Even though the hasty police briefings points a finger at the parents, I very much doubt if educated parents, will carry out such an irrational act no matter what the circumstances may be. Hope CBI carries out the investigation and the truth comes out in the opening. Meantime media and public should honour the age old principle of ‘NOT Guilty until PROVEN’.
May 29th, 2008 at 10:58 am
Only a sick perosn can buy the police theory that any parents that too well educated , can kill their only child who is 14 years old. not even those who are hard core criminals will ever do this to thier children. The Noida Police must be under lot of pressure to deliver as they came up with such an unimaginable theory.
May 29th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
-One must understand the state of mind of parents whose daughter is no more.
-They are not in a state to say anything.
-Even a father can’t be too hard to kill her daughter.
Parents always try to make their children understand their mistake by scolding them, sometimes by beating them but not by killing them. Even when they beat, after sometime they fell very sorry for that, their heart cry for that.
such a blame from police side is shameless without having solid proof.
May 29th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
CAN ALL OF YOU KEEP QUITE FOR NOW?!! ALL IS OVER. IF YOU ALL REALLY HAVE SOME COURAGE, STOP BLOGING HERE, GO DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE. FOR GOD SAKE STOP GIVING SUGGESTIONS TO POLICE AND OPINIONS ABOUT THAT PRETTY GIRL. MIND YOUR BUSINESS.
May 29th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Now that the case has become a political agenda; one thing is guaranteed… justice is out of the window… this is a really terrible crime (among the many other even more gruesome crimes that happen in our country everyday) that got a lot of media mileage. Really sad to see the politicians taking this up. CBI still is a good group to investigate this one; hope they get to do their job as they would like to do it.
May 30th, 2008 at 3:06 am
one day the real culprit is going to caught anyway.noida means lot of murders it seems
May 30th, 2008 at 5:47 am
let the soul of arushi talwar rest in peace. it is not th first time that the noida police are behaving like a bunch of untrained professionals, even they did same in nithari serial killings.shameless fellows. and after all, why the parents should kill their own love bird. idiot parents, god even our enemies shouldn’t have these kind of demonic parents. rajesh talwar might escape the prison using his image with politicians but god will not leave him and he himself, one or the other day will feel disgusted for this.what kind of parents they are? arushi god bless you da…. unknown friend
May 30th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
may the soul of the little girl rest in peace…..
whoever has committed this blunder should be very severely punished. the one thing that was puzzling was, when arushi’s mother was questioned on NDTV, there was absolutely no sign of sorrow on her face, she was answering so casually as if nothing has happened, she seemed a lot nervous though, but what made her so nervous is a mystery i.e whether, being on TV or was she trying to conceal something…..there were only 4 people when the crime took place and how could anybody (arushi’s mother) not know when something like this was happening in their house??? one other thing that is puzzling is, if it was rajesh talwar who has committed this crime, why would he spare his wife??? he would have killed her as well, but he didn’t do it !!!!! this is undoubtedly a VERY VERY WELL PLANNED HOMICIDE…..looks like whoever has done this is a real pro at his work…..the way things are shaping up, it looks like the cops will never be able to catch the culprit and might eventually close down the case…..and probably after 7 or 8 years the culprit will be caught and will be givnn very minimal punishment and then after 8 long years there will be a news in some corner of the news paper saying that the cuprit behind the murder is finally caught and is punished, and after that long years people will hardly remember who ARUSHI TALWAR was……
May 30th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
another thing that is puzzling is, why haven’t the cops questioned her friends??? where is the domestic help(hemraj’s) wife???why wasn’t she questioned??? and where are his other relatives gone apart from vishnu or whoever, who was questioned initially and has henceforth disappeared from the scene??? why aren’t the police questioning them??? also why aren’t the police interrogating the 3 boys who the police suspect were arushi’s boyfriend’s from the last 3 years????last night the sms’s that she used to send and receive was made public and the sms’s that she sent could be understood only by her friends, coz children these days have the habbit of breaking the words and making it short i.e for example (should, they type as shld), who will know what it means, apart from her friends who used to communicate with her in the similar manner or fashion….. well, the police, it seems have misunderstood what she had sms’ed and they have accused the innocent child……they could have asked her friends instead to just read out correctly whatever she had sms’ed……instead, they have read the way they want and have made stupid allegations on the child who is nomore…..very very pathetic way of investigating…..this is certainly no orinary case, lot of twists and turns, looks like more than a person is involved in this……
May 30th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
I am writing from the UK & have followed this sad tragic case.
Its rather shameful to suggest the young girl Arushi was possibly having an affair with hemraj the home helper, he was 45 years old & old enough to be her father.
She was a young intelligent girl & would not have done anything like that.It was probably a respectful mutual & pure friendship between them.
This theory is totally disespectful & disgusting for her memory.
Why would a pretty 14yr old not find boys her own age attractive in favour of a 45 yrs old ??
We all have sisters & have no right to gossip about this innocent young child & speculate on Arushi’s character in this way.
Something else happened that night, sadly Arushi & Hemraj took the sinister sequence of events with them to the grave.
The parents look rather suspicious, and often the answer to solves crimes like this is at home.
God is great & lets prey the real truth is revealed soon & we get just for both Narushi (lovely name) & Hemraj, unfortunately police in India & Pakistan are corrupt, I do hope all corruption is erased from this case.
Sadly, these kind of cases ie family murders etc parental explicit sexual affairs are very common in UK. Stabbing amongst teens are very common at the moment, one can say its a western society to blame.
Indian & Pakistani’s are fast losing there culture
and copying the western lifestlyes excessively to be hip & cool,if your born in these countries its different way of upgringing so I can understand why these certain USA/CANADIAN/UK born ppl have western attitudes, but ppl in India with different family orientated upbringing & having extra maritial affairs etc is very sad & low breaking down the morals & boundries of civilised society. UK & Western (bad/immoral things only)society & culture is in turmoil & NOT worthy of copying ! its a mess, drugs,free sex,no respect,drink,stabbings etc
Lets learn the good from the west not bad.
Send in the FBI or Scotland Yard.
RIP ARUSHI & HER FRIEND HEMRAJ
May 30th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Being a mother of only daughter that too late issue after 15yrs of marriage- Drs.Talwar also have this cute girl after 11 yrs of marriage.i can not digest the police version that father simply got into her bedroom and killed her????? like cutting vegetables?that too in the presence of her mother? – what happened on that particular day – no one knows?Police never allowed the parents to tell the details?
Now they are cooking up stories like – she was not responsible girl , she had 3 boy friends in yahoo msgr? As if they have found out the reason – what bull shit they are talking? How much a girl of her age should be responsible, i want to ask the policemen – are their children are responsible enough ? when they gave her laptop they expected her to keep it on the table,see everyday & night , do pooja for that computer?it is not new that today children make friends that doesnt mean they are characterless.what police talking about her – as if she did very bad job so her father murdered her?????? we all recommand to Up govt to send them to AGRA Mental Asylum. We know how much efficient NOIDA Police ,after Nithari murder , now Arushi.
May 30th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
It is sad that Arushi is being slandered even after death. I just cannot believe that we can be so base in dealing with a sensitive case like this.
I pray and hope that justice prevails, and that the killer/killers are brought to book as early as possible. When proved, the killer should get a death penalty for the most gruesome way in which she was done away with.
May God bless her soul….
May 30th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Just my 2 paise:
I seriously doubt that she had a relationship with Hemraj. But it defintely seems that Nupur knows some thing about the murders, as there is very less emotion from her side. It could be Nupur who actually did this. It could be that Either Nupur or Rajesh first killed Hemraj by hitting his head, because of some thing he has protested about something unknown to us, Nupur disliked hemraj’s actions.
Aarushi knew that Hemant was a good person, and immediately rebelled her parents saying that she would report to the Police, as they harmed him badly.
So the murderer hit the Aarushi’s head the same way.
Now wait a minute I take it back.
If Hemraj was first killed. What happenned tothe love the parents have. They would not hit their kid with same shot as they know she would die.
So my analysis is wrong.
First Aarushi Died, sequencially Hemant died.
But one thing seems apparent Nupur knows some thing.
Or it could also be that Hemraj killed Aarushi and then he slit his own trout. then dragged himself. as the Door was locked from out side.
May 30th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
I take back old analysis:
Here is some new analyis that makes more sense:
Here is what I think that happenned:
Rajesh Talwar was exteremely unhappy that her daughter did not listen to him. So he took her into the room and pushed her that she did not abide by his rules. He pushed her hard enough, was not intending to harm her. But his push was hard enough to kill his child with the head blow. But she died by the head injury. As their was a lot of sound coming from the room. Nupur witnessed this whole thing. as she was on her husbands side as far as Aarushi not listenning to the parents. Nupur understood that Rajesh was not intending to kill the girl.
Immediately at this time of the hour
Hemraj suddenly entered the room to see why there was a sudden calm silence after the load scolding noise.
Hemraj witnessed this incident and Rajesh immediately used his instinctive Devilish Doctor skills to unemotionally to push Hemraj. As he did not seem to be big person(His Body was a small built). But Hemraj did not immediately Die. So he slid his throat.
To cover up the horrible story in the night.
Rajesh and Nupur worked to whole night. Since thier daughter already died, Rajesh slit her throat as to make the scene as if some one else did the murders.
I guarantee the parent Talwars did not sleep that whole night.
After that the servant came in the morning.
The parent Talwars must not have slept at all that cruel night. Wondering if police asked the lady servant if Nupur or Rajesh looked tired.
May 30th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
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May 31st, 2008 at 2:39 am
Too Bad there are no Videos of the first day, or atleast Mrs. Nupur Talwars or RAjesh Talwars.
It is always good to take Videos of all possible suspects on day one rather the a week or 2 weeks later. Even if they are in despair. It is good for the View’s to atleast
As this gives a lot of time for the Suspects to Hide the Story. Which we do not want to happen. These kind of things won’t happen every day. Media and the UP Police should have known this.
taking a video recording allows to rewind and rewind and review their expressions etc.
May 31st, 2008 at 5:00 am
SUMTHIN HAS GOT WRONG WID POLICE !!!
May 31st, 2008 at 5:51 am
I think in this forum whoever has written against Rajesh/Nupur Talwaar may not be a parent yet. No educated parent can do against their daughter, evenif something has happened , they will readily commit the crime. Even uneducated/uncultured parents dont do this to their only child.
Only doubt against them is why they didnt get up after such things happened in their house.I know certain people, who don’t get up during the initial hours after they are fast asleep. Moreover police has a version that Rajesh had drinks before sleeping. So its quite natural.
I’m sad that the real culprits are watching all these dramas & enjoying outside.
May 31st, 2008 at 10:41 am
Some Parents when not in the right frame of mind at the time can kill their children for some twisted reason,education has nothing to do with it,most of the calculated criminal minds were highly educated ppl no-one suspected.Anger is a sin, if not controlled can escalutate into bad forms.
Only yesterday 2 parents have been arrested in England for stabbing their Children in a Surrey House.The deaths of two children,A 5-year-old boy and a 4-year-old girl have died. A 6-month-old baby girl remains in a critical condition.
Back to Arushi’s savage murder,vocal cords were cut as well as her throat slit, some one had an issue with her speaking out verbally,they made sure she no longer will do,which shows a kind of powerful authority type control on the victim like a parent. They intended to shut her up for daring to speak out,answer back in her defense of whatever issue was brought up that fatal night,for the killer its like ‘you cannot speak now’,a cruel act of vengeance.
I cannot believe they did not hear anything all night, if something is happening to your child a parent can feel it spiritually.Even if intoxicated you can still hear noises.
The parents seem so cold & not emotional, like they did the right thing.
Also the crime scene was not properly protected & secured,why was the mattress put on the roof at such an early stage ?it is crucial evidence,this whole case has been handelled very badly & unprofessionally, poor hemraj’s body was found much later, was the house never searched properly when Arushi was found ?? Also Arushi’s body should have been kept for forensic evidence until the culprit was caught & case closed instead of being cremated so quickly,this is a murder case not a normal death.Bodies often hold vital evidence,fingerprints,clues & theories which can be proved at later stages in an investigation.
I smell a rat ~ a big cover up & corruption.
Get in proper forensic police forces from the west.
JUSTICE FOR ARUSHI & HEMRAJ
June 1st, 2008 at 3:11 am
Is it possible some crazy Boy or Boy’s from Aarushi’s class did this.
These Days Kids are becoming Crazy:
For instance have yuo heard about the psycho Korean kid who did the Virginia Tech Massacre.
This is just a guess.
June 1st, 2008 at 3:15 am
Another Scenario:
Step1) Hemraj kills Aaarushi.
Step2) Rajesh and Nupur kill Hemraj as a result of step1. Rajesh kills Hemraj in a same fashion that hemraj performed Step1.
Step3) Step 2 was a revenge, So Nupur hides the Story to cover up her husband.
June 1st, 2008 at 3:22 am
The killer could be some one among Talwars Neighbors. He must be watching this whole scenario, If he is not amount the one’s who got arrested.
If the killer is not Rajesh.
Killer can be education or uneducated.
He must be a psycho. He is on the Loose. People in new delhi should be careful. Especially people in that area where this whole thing happened.
I am hearing more crimes in new delhi and Bombay these days. The Southern Cities are more safer to live.
June 1st, 2008 at 4:05 am
There is some thing with NUPUR.
First thing people whould call should be police. Why did she call
her brother in law.
From her video it tells that she is trying to convince that
that there was no commotion as the AC was on.
So it is very important why is she trying to convince the media
June 1st, 2008 at 5:04 am
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
June 1st, 2008 at 6:05 am
Its a sad case of rumor mongering taking over hard facts which the police havent been able to find out.They have been slandering Rajesh`s,Aarushi,Hemraj`s everyones name so as to find some motive cos they were so unprofessional to begin with.People in India seem to be practising drawing room detective work without having any clue about the family and are ready to believe any rumors that the media is churning out.The poor family is already devastated and on top of that have to put up with all this nonsense.The police needs to look into Hemraj`s past and find out if he was being threatened by some mafia after all he was with the Talwar family for just 8 months.Aarushi and Hemraj need justice and not slandering.The family is above suspicion the cops are wasting time and energy trying to frame Rajesh.NO FATHER WILL EVER KILL THEIR CHILDREN.AARUSHI`s HAPPY FACE SAYS IT ALL.SO PEOPLE STOP ASSUMING AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP IN GETTING JUSTICE BY SUPPORTING THE FAMILY THEY NEED YOUR SUPPORT.
June 1st, 2008 at 9:47 am
MEDIA IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BLAME ANYBODY FOR THEIR CHARACTER.
June 1st, 2008 at 9:51 am
media ka koi hak nahi banta ki vah kissi ke character ko blame kare.Arushi ki maa ke baare me soche.if her father found guilty than court should give him a severe punishment so that it will become a lesson for others.
June 1st, 2008 at 12:50 pm
I am really sorry about the news. i know what happend. i am a really close friend. she had three guys back to back . Her father probably got the f.king video with her and her one of the boy and killed and hemraj knew bout it also,
June 1st, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Hi. You are the second person to mention this incident. If there is no hard evidence, it would be a rumor. If there is evidence, the highest trustworthy authority should have it.
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:57 am
Please Note:All the Folowing are assumptions. Please do not buy any of the thoughts projected here.
“Sushashu”!,
that sounds like crazy man.
But even then, her father should not have gotten to the extent of killing her. It is her personal life. She screwed her life, but what do teen AGERS KNOW about anything. My next question is,
Is their family Spiritual at all??
NUPUR and RAJESH are always after money. AS they
“work LIKE CrAZY and sleep like Logs” from her Video.
But I know being an Indian myself and have been living abroad for last 12 yers, I know what the feeling would be If I was her father.
I guess now either the India bans Porn or there will be more incidents like this.
A picture is worth 1000 words. Like the software principle says, those 1000 words could be either corrupted or meaningful words. Only Devine Intervention can help kids like this in India.
Free Sex is not allowed in India. Father’s will definitely be angry if your Video assumption is true. Money is the root of all Evil. I guess, Nupur were soo much after money, Left her kid liberal. They should be angry
angry now.
How do you solve this type of a problem in America or Europe. Where it is soo liberal.
According to the statistics, 50 percent of all teen agers aready have sex in America by the time
they are 15 or 16. And 1 in 10 have STD’s(Sexually transmitted Disease.)
A girl with out a boy friend in america is considered a Looser. Same with a boy with out a Girl friend is Considered a looser.
Did this type of culture get into India Already???
It must be that her father loved her so much, that he wanted to her to obey each and every rule of his. Don;’t you see these scene’s in Bollywood. Father gets angry if the girl had premarital sex.
If your statement is true Shushanshu, According to the Indian Culure, She was very very disobedient. from Bollywood or Tollywood perspective, In the movies, it was Okay for the Father to bang the girl if she was caught having premarital sex. So that she obeys her FATHER. If this is wrong then Bollywood should be blamed.
But these days the Internet is to be blamed. There are porn videos so easily accessible in India.
Another thing is what if it was an Indian Boy who did this kind of a thing, rather than a Girl, The Parents would not even bother. Why they are sooo bothered if its a Girl.
Can you explain sushanshu.
If the Girl and family was very very spiritual than, they would not have encountered all this.
I guarantee NUPUR and Rajesh Both Charge their dental clients like crazy. Money is the root cause of all Evil. Too much urban life id not good too.
They never cared about their Kid.
Her activities. All they knew was the Good side of Aarushi.
Note: All the above are pure assumptions. Please do not buy any of the analysis.
June 2nd, 2008 at 5:47 am
“Sushanshu”, if you were a very close friend and knew about all these information, then i believe that you should inform the police about this and help in solving this case..
(or)
We could help you by informing the police/Media about you and you story which could help in solving this issue. don’t worry they could easily trace out your IP and knock your door.
(or)
If you are not clear then Pls don’t spread these kind of hoax and hurt the feelings of friends and relative.
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June 2nd, 2008 at 8:45 am
may Arushi’s soul rest in peace.
I go with Jasmine, don’t blame parents, and other families just going with police guys improper statements, they are purposely dragging Durrani’s family into the case. they are just good family friends, Hemraj and other maids who cant understand social culture may have misunderstood the relation between them.
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Hyderabadi from Virginia, you’re giving Sushanshu way too much thought. He’s just trying to get a reaction. It’s best to ignore nonsense like that.
What does everyone think about the CBI’s involvement? Does it hold out a new hope for justice? I think it’s a step in the right direction, though with all of the screw-ups by the Noida police, there may not be much evidence left to work with.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:13 pm
I think with the CBI taking over the case there is a much better chance of this case being solved, though how long remains to be seen. I certainly hope the theory of outside intrusion in this case is given a thorough investigation. If this theory proves otherwise, I am afraid even though I do not like fingers being pointed out, there is something which probably the family knows has not been pierced together so far( do not have a better phrase); in which case CBI is bound to solve sooner or later. From a parental point of view I hope I am incorrect, because this case which is being followed by both children and parents will have long term consequences on the Indian urban family set-up, whether one likes it or not.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Desi Abroad:
I guess you missed reading the first sentence.
“Please Note:All the Following are assumptions. Please do not buy any of the thoughts projected here”
This is just a message Board. It is not real investigation. I have been posting thoughts in all directions. I have plenty of time to do so the moment. But you do not have to buy them. Just post if you have a thought, you do not have to act as if you are the CBI. After all you are just another poster.
Thanks
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:28 pm
DesiAbroad:
So I miss understood your message. Please dis regard my message.
Thankyou
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:05 pm
A good article on the case by Vir Sanghvi:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=3e32ebcc-e577-4db3-ad85-9dd010326ef2&ParentID=24c27177-d949-47ce-9fb3-a2576375a7ce&MatchID1=59&TeamID1=8&TeamID2=2&MatchType1=5&SeriesID1=1&PrimaryID=59&Headline=FONT+color%3D%23ff0000Counterpoint%3A+%2FFONTThe+Second+Murder+
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Latest Theory:
“Two people may be involved” – CBI
http://www.saharasamay.com/samayhtml/articles.aspx?newsid=100119
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Aarushi_murder_Two_people_may_be_involved/articleshow/3097232.cms
“The CBI pointed to the presence of three glasses and a bottle of whisky in the room of Hemraj and claimed that the killer had gained a friendly entry into the house.”
This shows how carelessly Police has investigated the case. If this is the way police investigates a case having so much attention from media then we can understand how police must be investigating Aam Aadmi (common man) cases.
Comments please.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:13 pm
It could be possible that Hemraj was first killed by outsiders due to some riot caused after getting drunk. This murder was witnessed by aarushi. And so they have killed her as well. What were parents doing.
CBI must be investing each and every event that their parents were doing. Which clients they met, etc. They should infact meet investigate their clients as well.
It could be like in unbreakable or sixth sense, i dont remeber, ” The patient tries to kill the doctor due to revenge”
May be one of their clients got pissed off. They took revenge on aarushi. This event was witnessed by Hemraj, and so he became a victim as well. All the patients of both Rajesh Talwar and Nupur TAlwar should be investigated.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Aam,
Thanks for the links. Yes, we read about the used glasses long ago. There were 3-4 glasses. We were speculating on the number of adults that could be drinking from those glasses. Assuming that Dr Nupur Talwar did not drink or even if she drank, there might still be 1 more glass for another unknown person.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:56 am
Desi Abroad -
Thanks.
June 4th, 2008 at 9:02 am
There is a posibility that Hemraj was involved in Arushi’s murder and killed her on being told to do so by her parents, but in order to keep him silent, they killed him too.
June 4th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Honestly, this whole incident is very shocking.
The Maria case was also very upsetting but I can relate more to this one. A fourteen year old, doesn’t deserve death no matter what she has done. No one deserves death! If she made a mistake, she could have been explained nd told wht she did was wrong with a slight shouting maybe, but not by murder. Nd everyone should stop blaming the poor child for different things. Let her soul lie in peace. R.I.P Arushi 
<3
June 4th, 2008 at 10:54 am
It is blatantly obvious from the story so far that Rajesh Talwar murdered his daughter and the servant and his wife is colluding as there is a sordid mystery about the sexual relationship they had with the Durrani’s . The whiskey tumblers in Hemraj’s room were planted to give the illusion of outsiders in the flat . The Durrani woman is complicit in this murder and was probably present that night .I am surprised that Rajesh Talwar’s brother , who initially gave a very vocal interview on NDTV just days after the muder has suddenly become very silent . Doubtless he knows he should now keep his mouth shut . The mother’s interview with Sonia Singh defied belief . Her body language had all the hallmarks of a cold conniving creature who is lying through her teeth . Dr Talwar should be charged with the murder . His wife and the Durrani woman should be charged with aiding and abetting . When the three of them are forced to run cut-throat defences , they will sing like canaries . Get on with it , CBI .
June 4th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
IN MY OPINION ,IF THE HER FATHER THOUGHT AARUSHI AND HEMRAJ HAD AN AFFAIR HE COULD HAVE FIRED HIM AND SENT AARUSHI TO BOARDING OR HOSTEL,THERE WAS POINT IN MURDERING THEM WHEREAS AARUSHI AND HEMRAJ RELATION WAS LIKE A DAUGHTER -FATHER RELATION.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
i just want to say one thing aarushi wherever u are be happy yor soul will rest in peace and my heart will always pray that wherever u r you get all ..Even after your death u get a new life where your unfulfilled desires get fulfilled and get alll evrythign u craved for — A beautiful life ahead -a good rebirth and blessings of god and all those people who love you and always will–i neevr met you AArushi bt when i heard abot you i cried a lot ..i feel im connected to you somewhere on human level u r like my sister and will be always –i cry for you but will be happy when the one who killed you will be punished–i will go to SSAI baba and pray for you personally from my heart and soul–love you aarushi god bless you
June 4th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Lets live in the real world ! There was no question of an affair between a 13 year old child ( Arushi had yet to reach her 14th birthday ! )and poor old Hemraj . That’s a daft smokescreen put up to hide the father’s sordid business . If there are people who believe in that theory then their thinking is as warped as that of the stupid I.G or the disgusting father who clearly locked up his daughter every night so that he could carry on his little orgies undisturbed and without a teenage daughter to protest about it . The only decent adult in that household was Hemraj who died trying to protect a child .
June 4th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Hello,news upto date.
CBI found out blood soaked cloths from Aarushi’s residence. more than that when CBIquestioned both drs. and asked about the incident they told different versions.why the NOIDA police dint bring the police dog when they themselves were not sure about the killers? why they left so allowed to clean the house as well as the Aarushi Room so soon?
More important loophole is: On 11th May-Hemaraj met a lady social worker from Bangalore( she was in delhi that time)requested her help – as his life is in danger as well as some more life also? why CBI is not get in touch with that lady?
why he asked that ladies help? whom he was afraid of while talking to the lady as she told to a News channel-while talking with her he was afraid of surroundings and observing surrounding any one is watching him talking to that lady?
some thing might have happened long before the murder?
He must told or confide his fear about soemone. now CBI is to findout who are all they?
today at 10.30 news they told 2 persons involved in the murder not only one.
Really sorry child !!!! I can not stop crying when i saw you were playing with full of life in the Video’s ? how can a person be so cruel to you -after seeing that lovely smile with beautiful innocent eyes ?
i dont know you as everyone here. we are strangers but still we all love you !!
Hemaraj!Even after come to know that your life in danger you were there till the last movement of your life may be to protect that angel!
May Hemaraj & Aarushi soul rest in peace
June 5th, 2008 at 2:29 am
Thanks to everyone who has contributed here.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Don’t think Dr. Talwar killed them. But he certainly had knowledge about the killers. Plot must have been to kill the servant for some reason. As nupur talwar says, aarushi must have seen something which see should not have seen, must have led to her killing. But that might not be pre-planned. The killer while leaving must have locked the door from outside. And he must have carried the mobile phones of the deceased. The parents never expected their daughter to be killed. Now the entire night they must have planned the best course of action and deleting profiles in orkut n stuff like that. IP addresses from where the password breaking attempts were made should give the CBI good clue. Also, these tells that the murderers were well aware of internet and were educated.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Wake up and smell the coffee .There is overwhelming evidence against the parents . I am fed up of the naive comments by the public in this case . The UK police would have charged this garbage days ago . The parents have guilt written on thier foreheads ! Yet people would prefer to live in cloud cuckoo-land !Go back to sleep sweetie .
June 5th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Lawyer from London, your tone has crossed the line to condescension. The problem is, your argument is weak. You say there is overwhelming evidence? What is it? Your subjective assertions that Nupur’s “body language” makes her guilty? Your unsubstantiated speculation that the whisky tumblers were planted? If everything’s obvious, how come you’re the only person who gets it? Oh wait, I know what your answer will be to that one…
June 5th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
It is so unfortunate that the culprit hasn’t been brought to justice yet. My daughter who is exactly Aarushi age is so much touched by this happening that she watches every Indian new channel for more news and becomes even more frustrated as the case stands unsolved after so many weeks. Ones this mystery is solved I am sure there are so many people specially girls who will sigh in relief.
May Hemaraj & Aarushi soul rest in peace.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Dear Aarushi,
i have no connection with you still my heart cries for you my dear-how can god be so cruel to you a girl full of life, beatiful, innocent, educated , loving just shocking to hear such a disastrous thing can happen to a young bdding child–i always pray to god not for myself but for you aarushi–i wish i was god i would not take you with me rather bless you anew life and give you a chance to live again and fight for yor killers aarushi–i love you my child god bless you i really i could grant you with a new life where there would no pain only gain full of love and red roses– i will and always will pray for you –may your soul always rest in peace and god gives you anew life a better life where u get all alll alll alll –
June 5th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
My assumption after going thru all articles is as below.
As a regular day, the parents might have returned from work and had dinner along with daughter. During this time or after that , father or mother might have had some fight with Arushi and may be at the heat of the moment hit her with some rod or anything harmful. Unfortunately that blow might have ended Arushi’s life. Knowing that she was dead , parents might have sought some professional killer help, directly or thru any relatives. They might have have come in and slit the neck and killed Hemraj, the servant. I guess, the parents might have gone to their room, as they say and might have not seen what happened after they killed Arushi. (my guess)
June 5th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
My story is mainly dependent on the facts below.
1.Arushi is killed before Hemraj.
2.It’s not possible for a man to carry out the murder of Hemraj single handedly. There must be someone from outside.
3.Doors were locked in from outside.
4.Necks of both victims slit makes the person who slit the neck is same.
5.Necks are slit after hitting with some hard rod. (as per CBI)
6.Two of them can’t sleep through, when two of them were murdered in the family.
7. Phone calls were going through during the proposed time of murders.
June 6th, 2008 at 5:03 am
If on May 14, they was some one who searched the computer for sedatives that means, the killer was in the house the day before as well.
Some one may have drugged both Nupur and Rajesh that night.
This some one may have been Hemraj’s Friend who had a friendly entry into the house.
June 6th, 2008 at 5:11 am
That’s something to consider. While the dead had post mortems on their stomach contents, the living couple were un-suspecting on why they were in deep slumber.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
hyderabadi from virginia.. one question … hemrajs friend cant b computer literate to search for sedatives . this is the work of some proffessional educated person, present at home a day b4 murder. why the killer found only talwars pc to find out sedative, he can use public pcs as well.killer is some one among family members and very educated.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
THe parents were well educated, they had contacts with loadz of people. it was said the girl was killed at 2.30. educated people and people with money and high contacts would have tried to mess about with evidence . people with sense would not leave a body on the terrace for two day i don’t think the parents are the murderers and plus they are people with contact maybe they have enemies who tried to frame them.
please to me this does not add up at all
they had from 2.30 to 6.00 to try and mess about with the evidence and get ride of hemraj’s body. probably they didn’t even know that there was a body there.
it also don’t add up that the parent were in the house when the murders happened.
no where have the police ofr the journalist have mentioned that the girl struggled so may be she might have been killed while she was asleep.
when the mother threw the keys to the maid, she might have only thrown the keys to let the maid in. and she could not be bothered going downstairs to open the gates at the same time if she could not be bothered why would neighbours be bothered to open the gates for someone else’s maid.
i personally think the police are nt saying exactly what evidences they have and journalists are just earning money but we pulic should atleast be fair
this is a 14year old and a poor man they might be having a decent relationship. this girl had a father who worked till late may be she saw hemraj as a father figure.
i think it might have been a proffesional killer. killing because of business jealousy.
arushi might be just an innocent victim. whose name is being messed with after her death.
oh well i don’t think the parents have killed their own child i am a mother no matter what my child does there is no way i would harm him this bad.
they parents had enough money to do it in a better way and this way of killing is impossible in my opinion.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
What ever sedative was found in Hemraj’s Body should be searched where it was purchased. Either from a website from a Store in New Delhi.
In America every Drug store also has a camera. Too bad this is in India.
Atleast they should search near by Medical Halls in the 15 KM radius.
Was that same sedative taken by Aarushi. As aarushi ate Palak paneer, was that particular sedative in her system???
If it was in her system, there is a good chance that Rajesh Talwar and Nupur Talwar also might eaten the same food. so that proves that they were drugged. Thats why they had no clue what so ever. That would prove them to be innocent.
Since the weapon was a scalpel. The compounders also should betreated as suspects.
But why would Hemraj be afraid for his life. He knew as some one approached him to gain entry into the house. Some one treatenned him.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
The reports told that the post mortems on the two dead victims had no suspicious subtances. There was conflicting information. There were no tests on Dr.s Nupur and Rajesh. Too many days have passed to test them now to check if they had ingested sedatives.
June 7th, 2008 at 7:19 am
As far as i have read , i believe tis is a planned murder by the parents or at least by the father with the help of a professional killer cos
1)Search for seductive medicine tat hav no aftr remaining on 14th is done in the home pc, by the father with advice from a professional killer , it was used to seduce aarushi and hemraj so that they will not resist and scream loud ven the killer approaches them.Also may b nupur was seduced cos ladies may scream or oppose at this horrific secenes.and tats y she is telln she was fast asleep but she knws her husbund hav done it nd so she is tryng to protect him.tats y even neighbors didnt get any clue even hemraj was killed in open terrace.Also with the priest they registered death time as 2: 30 even though they claim they saw the dead body aftr 6 in the morning.
2)And i guess the professional killer was the so called courier man who came late to deliver the gift.cbi should find out which courier company delivered the gift and who delivered it????Its been reported that hemraj had called some social center tellng that he is afraid that he is usafe.But if he felt he is unsafe he can escape any ver any time.I think he called the social center may b 2 to tell aarushi is unsafe ven they will meet him in private.He stayed there to protect the child. We need to find out what social centre was that ,whether dealing with child and family problems ????,I suppose some complex issues were haunting the family , some ver i read a statement from a girl in the net who claims she is a neighbour of aarushi telln that aarushi was only adopted child of the couple.May b nupurs reactions aftr murder underlines tis.Any way there was some thing very fishy happening involving the talwars and duraanis.
3)They killed hemraj also as they suspected he knows few facts abt the threats to aarushi.By demolishing his body with out any proof , they can claim that servant killed the child.Things went wrong ven they were not able to dispose hemraj body as they thought.May b some 1 frm local noida police assured them of helping to remove the body later but presence of media prevented that.I wonder how body was not recovered by the police in the first day itself.Instead they were busy washing off the evidences.But later when the body started smelling ,some senior officer who came to the investigation bcos of the pressure of media could have found it out.Cbi please question local police officers who rushed to the scene first.
4) but still the mystery is wat was the motivation for aarushi’s murder.Tats not any silly thing to avoid.Cos if it can b the reason for dual killings , its something very serious, may b a major scandal or a worse moral issue.we have to bring that out at any cost.
guys , don forget about tis investigation if tis takes very long and media starts forgetting it, keep tis pressure on the authorities and media as netizens of india, we cannot leave many more aarushis to be killed by the changing culture of mordern india…tis is a litmus test for the moral values of indian middle class……we have to hold the precious meaning of family in our culture ,,,nd finally aarushi and hemraj , v r not gonna 4get u nd ur sacrifice……Rip.
June 7th, 2008 at 10:53 am
im sure this is a planned murder by her father…i think cbi should find out and question all her(aarushi’s) friends who had a conversation with her on 14 and 15th may,moreover they should also find out about that courier guy and he should be questioned in detail…regarding that drug i feel cbi should try to find out from which shop it was bought and by whom by asking all the medical shops in the nearby area to cooperate in the investigation…may be they will get some clue by questioning the police officers who were present at the crime scene on 16th morning…because otherwise its too late and all the evidences have been washed off by noida police///
June 7th, 2008 at 11:59 am
what about finger prints on the three glasses found in hemraj’s room??????????
any news…..
June 7th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
I think the father must not have done it.
June 7th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
I think the father might have not done it.
June 7th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
if the father had hired a proffesional killer they could have killed arushi and hemraj else where not in th same house where he was sleeping
proffesional killing means killing without evidences but this are too many so called evidences against her father.
i think her father was working was in the hospital and he must have made an enemy there.
anyone could have hired a proffesional killer and made sure this killing looks like the father did it and they are successful every really thinks the father did it.
why don’t the police investigate the fathers contacts in the hospital.
June 7th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
in one of the article its said that the police have taken the father somewhere unknown without the courts permission maybe also the police are trying to protect the father as his life might be in danger too otherwise why would the police want to take law into their hands.
June 7th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
I wonder who maintains these daywise blogs. Very neatly done.
Points against Talwars
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1) They were sleeping through the night.And murder happened. A case of neglect in terms of security of the house and security of the child.
2) Calling neighbors instead of police
3) Cold reaction of Dr. Nupur while interviews.
4) Rushing to Haridwar the day after autopsy
Points in defense of Talwar
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1) No killer can ever leave a body. There was lot of time to hide all evidence, 12:30 AM to 6 AM
2) No parent can murder their only child that also brutally although contract killing may be a possibility but for that also motive must be established, generally it is property and money which was not the case here.
3) Extra marital affair is not a big deal and doesn’t make a motive to kill child, and anyways Mrs. Durrani was not pregnant with Talwar unlike Shivangi Bhatnagar, so there was no can of worms opening for him either.
Motive is still a suspense in this case. Lets keep tuned in..
June 7th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Arushi’s cell phone has some secret that is why it was taken away after murder. What could be the secret ? The professional manner she was killed without much evidence suggests some bigger/international hand in it
1) May be she was an implant of a worldwide crime nexus a-la James Bond style, or may be the innocent girl was made scapegoat of CIA or some intelligence agency because she was brilliant in her studies. Generally CIA hires intelligent hackers also to crack international codes. Ankit Fadia is an example.
2) She got hold of some other country’s atomic secrets or financial secrets
3) She may have obtained some political secret, party warfare or some minister’s sex scandal nexus.
4) Military secret ? Like bofors scandal or war strategies etc..
June 7th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
very well said uvi,
June 7th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I undrstand Dr Talwar is terrified of undergoing narco-analysis . I wonder why . I would have thought an upright , devoted father like him would welcome the opportunity to clear his name .I appreciate narco-analysis has it’s limitations but even so , surely it should not evoke such absolute fear in a man who has nothing but the truth and the absolute truth to tell the world ? Or perhaps there is a darker truth that stands to come out under the effects of sodium pentothal ? Go on , Dr T ! It’s just a pin-prick . Hurts a lot less than a knife across t throat .
June 7th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Well said Simplesimon
I wish your message reaches Dr Talwar
June 7th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
narco test will not accept by court without clear evidence..
If CBI not able to find the weapons & cellphones..then this murder case will b closed chapter…
June 7th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Hydrabadi from Virginia :
The father has jolly well done it . If he didn’t , then little green men from Mars descended upon Noida in the middle of the night and did it . They probably didn’t have enough space in their spacecraft which is why they left the bodies behind .
June 8th, 2008 at 6:54 am
I do not think its Mr. Talwar. May be scene was well planned so that the father gets accused. May be all are concentrating on one direction – towards Mr. Talwar, and other side is been neglected. Time to think out of the box!
June 8th, 2008 at 9:13 am
Sadly in this case the answers lie within the box . A very small box . Murders between strangers are very rare . In the majority of cases the murderer knows the victim . What makes it difficult is the fact that in this case the perceived killer is the father . Such a notion is anathema to most human beings perception of social norms but that does not make such murders an impossibility . The fact that this is an educated middle class family makes it all the harder to stomach th notion of the father as a killer . This is a killing motivated by lust and lust alone . Only the four surviving members of that group can provide the answers to what happened that awful night . Talwar for all his intellect is a weak man and ultimately he will crack as the pressure gets to him . The wife is a tough cookie . As cool as a cucumber ! It will be harder to get through to her . But some day her conscience will get to her .Her day of reckoning will come too and when that happens , God help her .
June 8th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Could there be 2 more options:
1. may be Mrs. Durrani or somebody hired by her targetted hemraj and arushi being eyewitness had to suffer, alternatively
2. being aware of the scene, may be mrs. talwar has taken the opportunity and planned out the game! As yes, she seems to be tough cookie!
June 8th, 2008 at 9:44 am
My own personal opinion , for what it’s worth , is that Dr Talwar was the mastermind behind it . The internet search for sedatives that do not leave traces just two days before the murders is a telling factor . I understand the search was conducted from a computer in the Talwar household . It bears all the hallmarks of a pre-meditated murder . It will be interesting to see what the confiscated hard drives have to reveal .
June 8th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Hi Simplesimon,
It was surprising to read your views about Nupur Talwar as: “The wife is a tough cookie. As cool as a cucumber! It will be harder to get through to her. But some day her conscience will get to her .Her day of reckoning will come too and when that happens”. It seems you cannot judge the sentiments of a woman and don’t possess a heart.
If you see from her point of view you will find her to be the most dignified woman staying in a hard core man’s world. According to you it seems to me that she should be howling and screaming on the roads and play with filth and dirt all over!
On the contrary if you try to view with an open mind, you will find that she is the one who is the biggest sufferer as her only child is no more and her husband is under the judiciary. She is the loser from all the sides and yet lets her hopes pinned on for a free and fair trail.
Sorry to say. Its for the like minded people of your kind that the Indian Women are still the suffering lots!
June 8th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Indian Woman : I am a woman . I also possess a brain .
June 8th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
If Rajesh Talwar is not guilty(I dont think he is) then CBI will not be able to catch the killer because he has been extra smart-seems he has grown up watching a lot of sherlock holmes vieos. My heart cries out for sweet child Arushi, I hope some miracle happens and the truth comes out.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
My suspicion is also on KK Gautam, even though he claims to be a friend of Talwar, he visited their house for the first time ( why ?) and then went straight up to the terrace to discover Hemraj.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Lets assume Rajesh Talwar had an affair, then would Mrs. Durrani agree and say yes infront of media. Answer is No. If they knew they did it smartly then they would never agree. But even then Rajesh should have killed his wife, why he killed Arushi ? Wife will still be around. This lead us to believe that they were indeed playing wife swapping game, but then why would they do at home..they could have gone to a swingers club or for a vacation and cud leave Arushi at Grandma’s place.
June 8th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Indian woman , I am disgusted . Don’t you think the biggest sufferers are Arushi and Hemraj who lost heir lives ? Instead your sympathy lies with the mother for the fact that she has to go to court ?!!!!
June 8th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
dr talwaar has disposed off murder weapond somewhere while going to haridwaar, thats why he cremeted her body in haste.
CBI is wasting time to find murder weapon as polic didnt investigated properly initially.the weapon could have found easily b4 talwaar went to haridwaar.
very first thing which came into my mind for the cause of the murder is wife swapping, thats why wife nupur tawaar is cooperating her husband
June 9th, 2008 at 3:17 am
Hi Simplesimon
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I am really surprised to know that being a woman; you can speak such a language for another woman who has lost her only child and the husband languishing in the jail with no concrete proof against him yet. What ever be the internal matter, we should feel sympathetic towards the mother.
Hi Astonished
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I am really astonished and disgusted to know that the “the biggest sufferers are Arushi and Hemraj who lost heir lives”!
Can you just throw a light on the fact that how can dead people be the sufferers? If they would have been alive, I might have thought that they are suffering because of the pain. But in this case the people who are left behind are the sufferers. As they have to bear with the loss, humiliations and the media glare trying to de clothe them in public. Don’t you feel so?
June 9th, 2008 at 4:18 am
Well, in my mind, there is more to this murder than meets the eye. There is some secret, personal or otherwise which has not come out as yet & as such the motive behind the killings is unknown. Unless motive is established & knowing Indian judiciary system, Dr Talwar will be out on bail & enjoying his life very soon.
June 9th, 2008 at 6:59 am
Indian Woman – How come your warm , maternal and womanly feelings don’t extend to the widow and young children of poor Hemraj who lost a husband father and breadwinner ? Or are they lesser beings because they are poor ? Instead you are only concerned about Mrs Talwar . Correct me if I am wrong but isn’t this the same woman who slept fitfully while less than four feet away her young daughter’s skull was brutally smashed and then had her throat slit ? Let us hope that Arushi and Hemraj’s suffering was shortlived . And isn’t this the same woman who readily agreed with the NDTV interviewer just 8 days after her daughter’s death that Arushi’s murder had been placed on the ‘backburner ‘ on account of her husband’s arrest .Just because she is a middle class woman does not render her suffering any higher than that of other’s . Besides , the mere fact that she is a woman does not make her suffering greater than that of a man . Men suffer just as much as women . It is human suffering that matters and not the stuff that you are espousing . Likewise , the fact that I am a woman does not mean I lose sight of all objectivity and reason . As for the media , quite honestly half the cases that do receive justice in the end are because of the media influence in India as the judicial system is so poor . A little media glare will therefore probably be a good thing and perhaps the only way Arushi and Hemraj will ever get justice in an unjust world .As Azza rightly says above , Dr Talwar will probably be out soon and enjoying his life , thanks to people like you .
June 9th, 2008 at 7:28 am
someone’s loving daughter died and instead of finding out the culprit fast, the parents are defending themselves, this is very funny as a whole. But, still there might be some secret about other things which they do not want to revel.
I still believe, there might have been a fight between hemraj and jeevan (previous servant)the three glasses found on hemraj’s room shall revel some truth….
arushi might have been a witness towards hemraj’s killing so she also got killed….
CBI has to find out the previous servant …..
June 9th, 2008 at 7:55 am
I have just begun to wonder whether the whole plot has been geared in a way to point fingers at the father so that the real murderer and the sordid facts that motivated the murder, remain hidden. So, while the father is hogging headlines and hate mails, the investigation, even when led by the CBI cannot nail him!! All because the father has not really ‘done’ it. But one thing is certain – both parents know what happened and why.
And if this family is so well connected and others are involved, chances of the whole story emerging are less and Rajesh will also get off the hook finally cos he is not the ‘murderer’. He has been perhaps used well as a red herring!! Which probably explains why his wife too stands up for him.
June 9th, 2008 at 9:55 am
So that dirty linen is not revealed in public, the talwars seem to be not interested in co-operating with the investigators. If they didn’t kill themselves and didn’t have knowledge of why it happened, why did they tell the lie that aarushi’s door was locked that night due to which(apart from a/c noise) they couldn’t hear any noice. Infact a normal baap would have been really really kin to nab the culprits. Even if nothing is proved, I strongly believe that the parents are equally responsible. Sadly, law more often than not, helps the culprit in going scot free. Bcoz, for everything you need material proofs which is not possible to get always.
June 9th, 2008 at 9:57 am
It is good that there is lot of public interest in this case due to media glare, whether warranted or unwarranted. Otherwise, every body knows what happens to such cases in India involving such big people with appropriate connection. I am still very sceptical about end result & whether justice will be done to Arushi & Hemraj.
June 9th, 2008 at 10:42 am
Even I too have doubt on KK Goutam somehow.
Somewhere I read that he found some clues in Aarushi’s room but he did not told it to media. Why? As a responsible person he should do that.
Other thing is in my mind that why Talwar cremated Aarushi in such a hurry? If the case was so complicated then who given them the authority to do this?? Her body should be preserved for further investigation, however it was not!
Lots of fishy things around…
June 9th, 2008 at 10:58 am
AZZA IS RIGHT I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH AZZA”S QUOTE “DR Talwar will probably be out soon and enjoying his life”
HE CREMATED THE BODY IN HURRY BCOS HE WANTED TO GET RID OFF THE WEAPON SOON THATS ALL
FEW MISTAKES OF POLICE WILL MAKE DR TALWAAR INNOSCENT AS WHY POLICE DIDNT TAKE SNIFF DOGS AT MURDER SITE… COS POLICE DIDNT TAKE IT SERIOUS MURDER AS IT WAS DONE BY SERVENT HEMRAJ.. WHICH DR TALWAAR MADE UP A STORY TO MISLEAD POLICE AND HE WAS SUCCEDED
WE DONT KNOW WEATHER THE TALWAR IS CULPRIT OR NOT BUT HE KNOWS EVERYTHING AND HIDING THE TRUTH BCOS THERE IS SOME SECRET WICH HAS NOT COME OUT YET MAY B A VERY BIG SCANDEL.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:15 am
agree with supriya and preeti….that is too really surprising why was he handed over the body so early, while case was still not resolved? and why was he in hurry to cremate the body? May be mobile and weapon were hidden inside or may be he carried them and threw on the way to Haridwar? did they inpsected the place where body was cremated or the vehicle used to go to hardidwar? Did they speak to driver if vehicle was stopped anywhere on the way?
June 9th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
The Talwars are innocent until proven guilty, and in the absence of evidence they are innocent.
I do agree with Simple Simon that it is doubtful that these murders were committed by a stranger. If it were a robbery, all four would be dead and the house ransacked (unless midway through there was something that spooked the robbers). Hemraj had an entrance to the flat from his quarters – did someone enter this way, either by invitation or by overpowering him at the door?
I disagree with Simple Simon that this is due to lust and Preeti who suggests wife-swapping. Some rumours just refuse to die. Note how there has been no follow-up or defence of the Noida police’s suggestion of an affair between Rajesh Talwar and Anita Durrani. Aarushi’s murder was not a sex crime, and there’s not one scintilla of evidence presented to suggest it.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
On another point, does anyone believe the supposed polygraph transcript on IBNlive? It seems highly sensationalized I have a hard time believing that the CBI just happened to leak the material to a reporter from a small media outlet.
June 9th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
WHO IS THE KILLER OF ARUSHI?????
HOW LONG SHALL IT TAKE TO TRAP HIM???/
IS HE IN THE NET OR OUT OF HE NET????
MAY THE LORD HELP THE COPS/CBI TO TRACE THE
CULPRIT SOON.
June 9th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
many of these people in this forum are regular watchers of the soap-operas…..thats why this far fetched imagination…….please leave the poor child and the man alone ….leave the family alone….the CBI has taken over…and let us believe in them…..if anyone has any valid clues pls talk, other plsssss shut up with ur imagination. U all r just sensationalising the whole affair…..if u insensitive people have any respect for the dead ….plsss stop talking about them…..in favour or against them.
June 9th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
hi! latest news from New channels.
Yesterday CBI Introgated Aarushi’s grand parents that is Dr.Nupur’s parents.Today they Introgated Krishna , working as a compounder with dr’s Talwars in their clinic
Krishna is in CBI net as his finger prints was found in Talwars house on that day. when they questioned about that he lied. Today whole day they questioned him he accepted that he was in their house on that day. Now at 12Am CBI is in Dr.Talwar’s house to get something as KRISHNA the compounder mentioned during the lie detection test. He told CBI he will fully co-operate with them. some more information also found out that
There were 3 persons with Hemaraj on that day of murder.
Yes > some of them here told about Dr.Nupur’s way of behaving from the time of the murder.Really it is strange the way she took whole issue. asking media to support her for the release of her husband . she dint even mention about Aarushi’s murder!!!!!!!!!!! only Deepak the journalist enquired about the murder then only she said something bit n peaces. i really can not digest that fact how can a mother be so dignified even at the time of her only daughter’s murder- controlling her emotions !!!!!!!!!!!!!which is not real. her behaviour is not suitable a situation like this.hello indian woman – we are normal human being – when some one loses her near n dear one – that time nobody things about the surroundings- whether they are rich n cultured or in your words – falling on the road weeping , crying- if you thing those people are not real- i am sorry to say that is the way mother used to be , even now. what dignity u r talking when one loses the only child?
making statements in the media – not even have the courage to face the camera when giving interview?????? she only came out to get out her husband not for Aarushi’s murder. she asking support from viewers n media for Dr.Ramesh Talwars release? she never mentioned about Hemaraj’s family who also lost their bread winner?
I have to give my regards to Hemaraj’s family – even though he have some apprehension about danger to his life he never run away leaving the child Aarushi’s. such human being like Hemaraj – i salute him for his sacrifice.
June 9th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Most part of india or indians believe the only the son’s will make their life full and in heaven. we heard stories about murdering girl child at the time of birth or throw them in dust pins or any road ways to die. may be my assumption – it may not be true also. is this Aarushi’s case also same like that? being only daughter of the educated, professional parents with handsome income – if she get married everything will go to the boy whom they even dont know. Any relatives who dont want that to happen might have commmitted the crime?
These days for property relationships are going different directions-WHo knows ??
June 9th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Sick and tired of it , you are a hypocrite as you would not be writing unless you feel involved in this . So cut the nonsense .
June 9th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
shasha u turned the whole story dramatically in different way. No this time it doesnt add up. Come with some more ideas and imaginations that look real.
In present india when an only daughter or any daughter get marry everything never go to the boy whom she married instead boys money flows in to the daughters house….poor sons
those r the gone days when people used to ask for the sons now in future i can see when people will ask more girls bcos more girls means more money
June 9th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
I have just read somewhere that one of the Talwars ex servent had been died in mysterious circumstances and he also feared of his life b4 die.
I dont know how true this statement is?has anybody having this knowledge?
If it is true then certainly talwars involved in high profiled crime.
June 9th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
preeti -
I’ve not read about that. What is the name of the ex-domestic helper?
June 9th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Desi Abroad -
About the polygraph test – the signs of distress meant nothing to them.
June 10th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Its quite obvious that the talwar family is hiding something bigger. Bigger than Arushi’s murder itself.
June 10th, 2008 at 12:30 am
In the initial days of the murder those who “suspected” Hemraj are themselves the murderers.
June 10th, 2008 at 4:44 am
now…i just read the WHOLE blog at one go…in the beginning they have named Arushi’s mother name as Dr. Niranjan Talwar…n as we progress it suddenly becomes Dr. Nupur Talwar…???
what is that…when i suddenly read the new name i got confused totally as to now WHO WAS NUPUR TALWAR…??? so how come we have 2 names..????
June 10th, 2008 at 5:41 am
Different media companies used different names. In the beginning, there was some confusion. They have different spellings for the girl; Aarushi and Arushi.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:34 am
The aide, compounder Krishna Will be arrested for these Murders. Case Solved!!!
June 10th, 2008 at 7:38 am
Nah ! I prefer the earlier theory that Noida police did it .
June 10th, 2008 at 7:46 am
why isn’t anyone questioning the friend of aarushi who spoke to Noida police giving all inside details.. maybe he had his own side of the story. has any one cross checked the facts given by this boy?
and yes ,, maybe all these were arranged to trap arushi’s father.. who knows maybe someone just logged in his computer and being a known face no one suspected the motive. .. pls pls may the cbi investigate all the angles. Poor Arushi, she has not only lost her life, but maybe her family too
June 10th, 2008 at 7:59 am
The police supposedly picked up the school boy for questioning for 3 hours but the details were not released to the media.
June 10th, 2008 at 8:34 am
Hi Shasha Kashyap
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If you read carefully to my comments, you will find that I have never mentioned that Nupur Talwar doesn’t have the right to cry. On the contrary it was mentioned whether the Indian society demands her to howling and screaming even after about 20 days of Aarushi being dead? Nupur Talwar & her family members were forced not to talk in front of media by the Noida Police, I hope you know this. The way her husband was arrested by Noida Police (as she mentioned in her interview to media), is enough for a person to loose faith on the proceedings by the Police. Hence she has nothing but to remain dignified and show her belief in the Indian Judiciary System. Regarding her mention about Hemaraj’s family, we do not know the full details of her communication with Hemaraj’s family. I don’t think that a person has to give out every detail of her versions when already the CBI has taken over the case.
I also sympathize with Hemaraj’s family but no where it is said that Hemaraj had any apprehension about danger to his life (it was cooked up by the media). For your reference I am quoting from the blog:
[b]“Uma Thakur related that Hemraj looked frightened. The press repeated this claim and associated this with Hemraj reportedly telling a few friends that he feared for his life. It was rumored that he had gossiped about the relationships of Rajesh Talwar and was afraid of repercussions.”[/b]. So how can you say that Hemraj sacrificed his life?
It may be he was also a part of the killing as there were 3 people in his room that night and one of them was he himself as already the compounder Krishna is now in CBI’s custody.
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So can I say that there was quarrel between the three and he got himself killed while plotting to kill the child?
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Hi Tell me another one
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I totally agree that ‘Sick and tired of it’ is also a part of the people watching soaps and relating them in their day to day life but I also feel that the words which has said are not wrong.
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Hi Sherlock Holmes ,
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Congrats! So can I hope that from now no one will post reply about Aarushi’s case? You have already declared the culprit as compounder Krishna. I think you deserve the post of Chief of Interpol.
June 10th, 2008 at 8:58 am
I deplore Balaji Films decision to depict Arushi’s murder in a film and particularly at a sensitive time like this . Even more effective than the courts banning such films would be if the public were to make it clear that they will boycott all Balaji films . Perhaps in those circumstances Ekta Kapoor will realise that there is more to filmmaking than money alone and there is such a thing as decency .
June 10th, 2008 at 9:54 am
BALAJI FILMS SHAME SHAME
PEOPLE BOYCOTT BALAJI FILMS
June 10th, 2008 at 9:59 am
may arushi’s soul rest in peace.. may her killer die a more brutal death dan her…
June 10th, 2008 at 10:01 am
1.how can cbi establish that the door to arushi’s room was open at the time of her murder? do they have any video recording that captured the time frame of murder
2. what abt the fact- that the call pattern of arushi? arushi would get an sms and then she would call back the caller? one hears of giving missed call so that the reciever would call back .. we all do at some point but sending an sms each time? why not just call and finish the matter.
3. even if one argues ok the parents might have been drugged, it still doesn’t explain why not once Nupur or Dr Rajesh talk about their agony /misery/helplessness/loss of their one and only child when talking to media? why aren’t they asking for the real killer to be caught . why aren’t they eager to see that their daughter gets justice? all the talks are about “my husband is innocent” or i am being framed”
4. in answers to questions during lie detection test .. some answers given by Dr Rajesh was- I dunno- i can’t remember i was distressed/pareshan tha..” these question were pertaining to those moments when they were not supposed to be aware of the gruesome death(since they had retired to bed/they discovered the death in the morning)so why was he distressed?
June 10th, 2008 at 10:08 am
raju was one of the servants who worked for rajesh talwar earlier this year and the died in an accident???????? isn’t it too much of a coincidence?
one must find vishnu and see if he knew anything..
who knows maybe even he may turn out to be dead.. isn’t he missing as reported
June 10th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Thanks but we would avoid direct links and pasting of entire articles.
June 10th, 2008 at 11:25 am
The person who sent phone text messages did not want to pay more for direct phone calls. The person who was willing to pay could use the phone to dial back and talk.
June 10th, 2008 at 11:38 am
but wouldn’t you agree with the points raised in that article. like a bigger conspiracy and more threats to Dr Rajesh’s near and dear ones?
June 10th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Really Angie- This whole mystery doesn’t let me sleep the whole day i keep checking the latest news even at work.. She was such a lovely child.. so sweet and so full of life.. nothing can justify why her life had to be snuffed out (just wondering???? how could a 14 yr be a threat to anyone????????
June 10th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Yes, more brains make quick work at deductions. Many here guess the father did not do it but has to keep silent because of a greater reason. Those who could not keep quiet were forcefully silenced. Those who could keep quiet could live. It is just a guess.
June 10th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Allowing to stay in the place where such horrific murder took place, would have definitely given enough time to killer (or his/her supporters) to wipe off the clues……the house should have been immediately sealed!
June 10th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
1) Irrespective of weather Rajesh is Aarushi’s REAL father or not – she was 14 for crying out loud!!! She did not deserve to die – PERIOD.
2) BUT she did – I will not make speculation, there has been enough of that already…
3) All I want to say is – RIP Aarushi
4) I am not very big on forgiveness when it comes to the issue of murder OR rape – so I hope the killer/s ROT IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY…!
5) As for Aarushi’s morals – the speculations about her relationship with Hemraj are preposterous!!! He was more likey a substitute father figuer (sincer her own father was never around!)
Regardless, neither deserved to die
RIP – Aarushi
RIP – Hemraj
June 10th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Jq, you’re spot on. Apparently, the police did not seal off the crime scene at all the morning of the murder. Many, many police were milling around, contaminating evidence and even gawkers came into the complex and even into the flat. There were so many fingerprints found, the investigators didn’t know where to start. It was a fiasco. We can only hope the (assumed) advanced forensics of the CBI can find the crucial pieces of evidence.
June 10th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
angie if father didnt do it but is silent for any reason… he is equally culprit. father allowed the killer to remove clues and even after that father and mother both covering up. No matter what the reason may b behind it but no reason could b bigger than ones own childs life in this world.
in other words father is criminal.. who suppoerting criminals…
June 10th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
do u think cbi is close to crack the case as some one here stated that compounder KRISHNA has accepted that he was present talwars house at the night of murder.
if it is true then case must b cracked as krishna must have known everything happened that night.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
What did I say. Compounder should be treated as a suspect as well.
He is the main suspect now. He must have been the one who drugged the Talwars and browsed internet on aarushi’s machine.
Krishna is a close friend of Hemraj. Krishna, Hemraj and “…….” had drinks that night. the puzzling thing is who is “…….” that night.
is “…….” rajesh talwar??? They need to run another polygraph to find out who Talwar had drinks with that night.
June 10th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Balaji Telefilms & any others who try cashing in on other’s tragedies are sick, preverse minds & should be banned.Do they not believe that they have a responsibilty in what they are feeding the audience with???Half the shit that happens is probably because of stuff that these guys feed the public with.Down with them!
June 10th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Hey Angie,
This is what I’ve been feeling too!
June 10th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
ohh my god this case gets murkier day by day. First of all RIP to both the victime. I sympathize with the girl and with the family. I can imagine the whole world crumbling down for them.
But I cannot understand the callousness of the delhi police. I donno just a thought, read it someplace that this family is VIP, good contacts, so were the police paid to mess up???? and if u remember the initial policemen in charge have all been transferred coz they messed up. so now whoever is there isnt the person who collected evidence first hand. CBI also has been called in late. anyways we can only pray that the real culprit is caught.
I agree with angie and pixie, even I keep wondering the whole time who is it? and wat is the secret so grave that the father and mother are tight lipped? I mean they seem to not want to talk about how to find the killer.
One thing that bothers me a lot is that suppose there is a murder in a house, wat is the first thing we do is call the police, which they didnt do, then if u think it is the servant, any parent would search for him in the house, u know boiling with rage for killing a gal, so that means they searched the terrace saw traces of blood or blood and never thought of mentioning it to the police. hmm I cant agree.
Another thought, suppose the father killed both of them and he hid the servant in the terrace or watever, is he a serial killer of some sort to sit in the same house for so long knowing that the body of servant is lying just there. I dont get it all. ahhhh so much for my detection.:(
June 11th, 2008 at 1:16 am
Sab drama hai. Arun Kumar (CBI) is carving the stories to set Rajesh Talwar free. Eventually CBI will find all the evidence against the compounder but nothing against Rajesh & Nupur Talwar. Just like Pandher (Nithari murders) where the servant was accused for all the murders.
Band karo ye drama. CBI should understand a 14 year old child was brutally murdered. There should be no mercy against the murderers.
June 11th, 2008 at 4:35 am
on may 26th, before the matter has gone to CBI, I have given my comments in these columns as below:
jmkishore Says:
May 26th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Pray that Arushi soul rests in peace.
I wonder why Vishnu , the ex-domestic help is not being located.He must the only the alternative suspect as :
1) he is still missing.
2)he has a motive to kill Hemraj for not giving him his spot in the house and aarushi as her parents did not care him to replace hemraj.
3)the mobiles could have been taken away by him or would have thrown somewhere around the house- police may have to look into possible places such as the drianage, water tank,on the shades of flats , in the garden area` etc.
4)it is eported thatsome one called from a publc booth -is could be Vishnu.
5) Vishnu could have been let in by hemraj or he himself could have been hiding in the house before resorting to the killings when the doctor couple has gone to bed.6) whether the mobiles of aarushi and hemarak switched off or ringing? if ringing, they wd have been thrown some where.If switched off, they wd have been switched off by Vishnu.
Wish police resort to investigation in the above angles.
Now, on this 11th june 2008,I read that CBI is looking into these angles. Thats really appreciable. Either it is Vishnu or krishna (may be both same) who could have some knowledge/full knowledge of the crime. I request CBI to continue to test this/these people so that the truth comes out.CBI search for weapons may not go waste as it is likely that the culprit had thrown somewhere around the house only.
June 11th, 2008 at 4:38 am
Hi today news on CNNIBN is that the murders of Aarushi and Hemraj are preplanned murders and are not just happened in an emotion or anger.Compounder Krishna is very much present on that night and he also involved in the murder plot and CBI also opened the Air conditioner of Aarushi’s room to know how much noise came on that bad night and how Talwars went to that much sleep in that noise.
I am thinking that both the parents along with compounder Krishna killed Aarushi. I am not understanding why everybody is blaming on Police Department they are also human beings with all Indian sentiments.On the first day they went to the crime scene and blindly believed the version of the parents who are with tears and lost their only kid and Mrs&Mr Talwar with Oscar awarded action misled the police and according to one news Mr.Talwar didn’t allow police to enter into the house for a search and asked them to getout of the house to search the Murderer Hemraj.When they strongly believed that Hemraj is the murderer and Mr.Talwar also told the police that he ringed up to Hemraj even his mobile is also not responded.
How can the poor police get the doubt that parents only killed their own only one small,beautiful,innocent and intelligent daughter? I am not supporting the police here I know that many police officers are corrupted but in this case they respected the agony of parents(Mrs&Mr Talwar) and blindly believed them on the very first day of the murder that is 16th May 2008 and instead of collecting all the evidences they were busy in searching of Hemraj(who is already dead on the terrace of the house) and Mrs&Mr.Talwar locked the house and went to Haridwar.
That mother and Father planned for this murder and also hired some others and finally Killed that poor little child.
When parents killed her Who will stand for her and do justice for that sweet child Aarushi?
What was Aarushi’s mental condition on that night when she saw his mom and dad came to kill her.I am getting tears if I visualize her condition on that sad night.
I am confident that Rajesh and Nupur Talwar are only killed Aarushi.If they are innocents
1.why they are not getting angry for the murder of their only one daughter why they are not cooperating with the investigations,Even if Mr.Rajesh Talwar is in custody why he is worrying when he is not involved in the killings
2.No lie detectors will work on those two doctor parents who are mentally strong and as strong as they even planned to murder their own blood.Only 3rd degree treatment will work on those two criminal doctors.
Even it’s CBI or other internationalized agency I request them don’t take this case in to the court and my request is to hang Mrs&Mr.Talwar openly before their house and I request all the News Channels of India to give live telecast of their hangings.
Then only Aarushi will get Justice.I pray for you Aarushi and requesting god to send you again to this world as my daughter so I can give all my love to her all the time till end.
June 11th, 2008 at 4:53 am
This murder investigation is just like a daily serial dragging,dragging and dragging.
If Balaji tele films take up the story they will finish it more fastly and they will give happy ending like Aarushi will take next birth in to Mrs&Mr Durrani family and will take revenge by killing them by slitting their throats with the same weapon.
I am getting irritation with this investigations and the way they are trying to side Mr.Rajesh from the case.
June 11th, 2008 at 5:15 am
As reports says, sedatives might have been used. In that case ofcourse the parents were in lull of sleep and would have not known what was going on…but below (copied from article) is something that should have been considered by police before Hemraj’s body was handed over
“There was a source who mentioned that Hemraj’s mouth had hair inside. This was seen when Hemraj’s body was found. It was unclear if the police had examined this evidence of hair”
And, we do understand state of parents when they saw their daughter on the killing morning, but police could have alteast inspected the appartment and terrace…for rest evidence like finger prints they can seal the house or wait and do it couple of hours later keeping the sentiments of parents in mind! How can police leave the place cmopletely uninspected where the act like murder has taken place. Who knows murderer or the proof of murder were hidden on terrace?
Ofcoure, they will look for the person whom family thinks as prime suspect, but still an inspection in all the rooms, bathrooms and terrace should have been conducted!
June 11th, 2008 at 6:42 am
detective gal,
your detection is appreciable.On the first day of the murder on 16th May 2008 when police tried to enter in to the terrace for a search then Mr.Talwar told to them not to waste time by searching the house and asked them to get out of that house to find murderer Hemraj.I am still in shock about the attitude of the Talwars also not understanding why the parents are tight lipped.What I am thinking is Mr.Talwar successfully misled the police and when police are in search of Hemraj this Mrs&Mr Talwar went to Haridwar and finished their work there and after coming they din’t find the way to take Hemraj body out of that house b’cas of media cover and Police.
As you told when Mr.Talwar found that his servant Hemraj is absconding first he should go and check his room in terrace for further clues or cooperate the police to check it Mr.talwar failed to do both.Mr.Talwar after successfully destroying all the evidences he came out and even not responding for the lie detector tests.
June 11th, 2008 at 6:54 am
Shivaji , I share your concerns . I am troubled by the ease with which the CBI have obtained permission to subject Krishna to narco-analyisis tests yet seem unable or somewhat slow to carry out the same tests on Dr Talwar despite the contradictions in his evidence and the enormity of his role in this incident . It does bring by memories of the Nithari killings .
June 11th, 2008 at 7:00 am
Can any body explain me how can an Air conditioner cover is used to cover the body of Hemraj who is around 5″5′.I know that there are two types of Air conditioner systems one is window Ac and the other is split AC but it’s highly impossible to cover a human body with the AC cover.
Mr.KK Gautam is not the first person who entered into the terrace of Mr.Talwar prior to that somebody went to throw the blood strained mattress of Aarushi on the terrace.
When somebody already went to terrace then where is the necessity to break the lock by Mr. KK Gautam.
How come the neighbors accepted to keep the blood strained mattress of Aarushi on their terrace even after knowing about this mysterious murder.
Why the CBI is not questioning Anmol with whom Aarushi communicated by calls and sms from her cell phone.She might be share some of the secrets with him.
CBI should also question Mr&Mrs.Anitha Durrani for their call record from Mr.Talwar even on that fateful night Mr.Talwar ringed up to her 6times.
June 11th, 2008 at 7:20 am
I appreciate you Vijo.CBI should also question that neighbors how come they accepted to keep that mattress on their terrace.They accepted for that somebody kept it without their knowledge.Talwars also should be questioned why they throw that mattress on the neighbors terrace as if they are not having any place to keep their own and only child’s blood strained mattress which is very very important for further investigations.
June 11th, 2008 at 7:41 am
This morning’s news said “Raju was one of the servant who worked for rajesh talwar while Hemraj went for vacation, he worked for 1 month”. Raju is the guy who was killed in the road accident and police had told it is a mis-hap.
Now the news is saying that CBI found someone was using mobile phone of Raju after his death to call KRISHNA….CBI is asking krishna who was calling????????
Krishna on the other hand told CBI that he was in the house of Talwar’s on the night of murder around 8.30PM and his finger prints are found on th terace also….so he told….he went to the house using the regular staircase but while coming back he first went to terace then went to the other side of terace and came down using other staircase…..
Too much confusion…..
Krishna…looks like today CBI has taken him to balgalore for narco test……
June 11th, 2008 at 7:50 am
Just a guess work but as CBI is telling it is a planned murder…..
3 cups and a whisky bottle….
Can it be the gang of Vishnu, Krishna, Hemraj and Raju….planned something big but due to some technical problem at the last hour…only arushi got killed and while fighting hemraj also got killed…..
May be Raju wanted to open his mouth so he also got silenced….
VISHNU…..
May be it is his master plan….
Looks like it is a big plan of these fellows…..
June 11th, 2008 at 7:57 am
I am regularly watching TV and listening to all who ever comment on this topic…but still, my point of view is….This case has been spoilt from the begining by the police and the media…or else it was a straight case where the culprit could have been caught easily…
Now, today….it looks sooooooooooo complicated.
All the credit for destroying it goes to Police and the media 100%.
I still feel it is a servents planned case where they were to kill all of the arushi talwar family…but due to some problem at the time of murdering …such happened and the blame went to the father and mother…..
June 11th, 2008 at 8:09 am
I was wondering if any psychich help could shed light on this case. In the West, polce and investigating agencies often take their help in cases which are not leading anywhere.
June 11th, 2008 at 8:13 am
This murder is not done by Fatehr and Mother. They are not a fool to do it inside the house. They would definitely make it outside the house so that the blame doesnt come to them….
Someone came to house and it is the 3 glasses and a whisky bottle….
CBI is in the right track….
June 11th, 2008 at 8:20 am
Hi BBBB:
For an instance, lets guess it was master plan of vishnu krishna and hemraj….and due to some problem hemraj got killed…but wat could be the motive? Revenge from Talwar family? or some robbery? Robbert for sure no..coz nothing has been reported to be missing from the house….and if arushi was killed to take kind-a revenge from Talwar family..then Talwar family should speak up about any kind of disputes/problems that were happened in past with any of these three…??? …there is still lot more that Krishna can tell the CBI….
June 11th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Wat about inspecting Compounder krishna and Durranis house?
June 11th, 2008 at 8:43 am
These days you can hear almost daily a murder took place in delhi….causes are servents…
Now, when the family tells they do not have enemity with anyone…and when the family is comfortable with servents….such cases come up…
May be hemraj went to report this plan to the social worker lady also…and may be he didnt cooperate according to the plan on that night and due to which…he got killed and due to such problem they had to run away without robbing the hhouse…..
I feel the plan was to kill all talwar family and rob them…but unsuccessful plan where arushi got killed and hemraj also…..
CBI now is in the right direction….
KRISHNA has already told he was in terace and he used the other starecase to come down….
June 11th, 2008 at 8:47 am
All the servents used by Talwars were brought by VISHNU and almost all of them were in relation to each other. Drank together planned many things..laughed…felt it could be simple…they will hit and run…but plans get failed due to a small mistakes…
they had to drop down their plan and kill hemraj also and run away…
The fellow raju who got killed in the road accident also must be involved and due to which he got killed as he might have told to open his mouth…..
CBI told that after raju’s death his mobile was used to call KRISHNA for some 4 days….CBI is asking krishna who called him using that mobile…????????
June 11th, 2008 at 8:55 am
Hi Jq,
Searching Compounder’s room or his house might help a lot…but durrani’s i dont still believe such story as swapping and etc…
If there was something like swapping as the police said….i dont think it makes a motive to kill daughter still….
June 11th, 2008 at 8:59 am
BBBB…your words have a go! seems this could have hapened! Though everybody is pointing our Mr. Talwar, somewhere I do have instinct, looking at the case, they are not involved and that they have no idea wat happened the dreadful night!
June 11th, 2008 at 9:09 am
news channels are now reporting that Raju is alive ?????????? it has to be the servant angle. Maybe they knew something about the talwars.
if they wanted, they could have killed all the members. but theykilled only the ones who were not in a position of authority- either young or poor.
Vishnu also must be brought under the scanner. Whatever it is , it doesn’t explain the behaviour of Rajesh and Nupur – right from the conflicting statements to the hurry of going to Hardwar, not coming back to identify a second dead body.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Hi Jq,
As a whole all we know is what is given to us by the media. But still when i see Rajesh talwar in the TV i feel he is a moody person but he cannot do it. And another factor is if they had wanted to do then they would have made it other place than the house itself so that they will not get caught.
It seems a little family of father mother and a daughter. They had some friends and the life is like ours these days.
The Trauma and shock is such that the father and mother is behaving in this way…thats all…
So much of confusion came up just because of the police and the media…..
June 11th, 2008 at 9:32 am
Hi pixie,
These are the facts we got through the media. How much of MASALA is put no one knows.
It is the police who should keep the dead body strictly till the case is over.
If they hand over then as a hindu family they will do the rituals at the earliest.
some of the facts about Talwar family looks odd…but still these will not add up for them to be murderers…..
They are shocked and finished….they feel….
Some people act odd…..but what to do…
Suppose the father wanted to kill the daughter….dont you think he will make it such that he will not get caught?????????????????????????? but here he is trapped from all the angle…..
June 11th, 2008 at 9:41 am
Hey pixie…where did you find saying raju is alive???? is it on tv channels?
June 11th, 2008 at 9:42 am
i am totally agreed with satyas view.nomatter how much the servents r involved in this murder but murder could not have been possible without parents co operation.Or one thing possible that if parents r away from home that night, then this all is possible.fingers again and again raise towards parents only bcos there r so many questions that r unanswered and could not leav parents innoscent
1.why did they tell the police to stay away from home and find that hemraj the murderer out?
2.why didnt they call the police first instance
3.when the gate was locked from outside then howcome dr nupur talwar tossed the keys to maid or how come the killer locked the gate from outside and throw the keys back to nupur?
4how come nupur knows which key to throw for the maid?
no killer have enough time to remove all the clues and locked the doors after murdering it is possible only in one case when he knows that mr and mrs talwar r out for freaking with their extra marital parteners.Thats why they may b tight lipped.
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June 11th, 2008 at 9:46 am
Hi BBBB
Yes u r right .. the parents would have adopted other methods to kill . They may not have killed hem and aru but they know something that they r not willing to share.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Hi Jq, its on zeenews website- article on Arushi. It seems Raju has been picked up for questioning
June 11th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Pixie…I agree with you when you said about Talwar’s rushing to haridwar…but their behaviour or support for investigation…give it second thought…lets try to look other side of coin…..On one morning parents find their daughter dead..and within 24 hours the police holds the dad as prime suspect…what is position of a father….on one hand your little-love your only child faced such a terrific death, probably children are the main reason for parents to smile…and specially if she is somebody sweet like arushi…and on other hand media has blowed up the issue and in pressure the police is torchuring the dad! What could have been his position? You anyways loose senses when you see your near and dear one dead in front of you! For few days you are not in “hosh”..and millions of people having eye on them pointing out them….even if they wish how will they make themselves strong enough to find culprit…i m not supporting Mr. Talwar….i do agree about some of the act of Talwar family on this murder that are bit strange and not justified……but still as a father he has got a big shock to react to the media and people satisfaction! And yes Mrs. Talwar ..i do agree she want to save her husband…coz after daughter she do not want to loose his husband..but yes its very strange she never spoke about punishing arushi’s killer? …
June 11th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Hi preeti,
I dont think parents will plan their daughter’s murder with servents. Secondly, parents will not murder their daughter in their own house, they will take her far away and make it such that they will not get caught.
1. they told the police about hemraj as he was missing….it is the police who is foolish they should have checked the house on the first day.
2.No one will call police these days as they give too much of problems so we will stay away from police…as much as it is possible.
3.the key part may be the lock is press lock system.
4. she might have tossed a bunch of keys.
See these are the facts you are talking about which came through media.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Hi pixie,
Yeah you are right the parents are hiding something…it looks fishy…see these days it is very difficult to get help as everyone is tooooo busy and people are always ready to make issues of small things also. All fear such things.
Actually Arushi case is like other muder cases but the way it is brought up..with sexual stories..everyone is keen to know about it…
I prefer in simplifying it….so that it gets solved soon…instead of creating more confusions…..
June 11th, 2008 at 10:39 am
dear bbbb
read the latest update right in the beginning of this blog. It seems the parents were sheilding Arushi from someone who was hot tempered and who would get aggresive. Maybe that is the reason why the check on sedatives on the web.
I remeber reading somewhere that Dr Nupur’s sister in law was at home on that day and yet Dr Nupur instructed Hemraj not to leave Arushi alone?????????
I would really urge the parents to open up and speak their heart out. we could know their side of the right from the beginning.
Maybe there is no sex angle at all .The idea has been dropped by the culprit as a red herring and to make the focus move onto someone else- targetting Dr Rajesh and Nupur
June 11th, 2008 at 10:54 am
krishna the compounder given the statement that talwar had affair with anita durrani… now atleast one thing is confirmed that krishna will help CBi to reach the criminal and CBi is not framing krishna to save dr rajesh as some ppl said here.
dr nupur also should gone under narco test why she is away from CBI s eye
and this is intresting that raju who had been found dead in road accident turn out alive now
case is taking dramatic turns everyday
dontknow how much truth in this statement of zeenews headlines?
June 11th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Hey pixie,
Yeah you are right, if parents little open themselves then the clearer picture will come up.
You have written something which is news to me. Sister In Law means who? Dr. Dinesh’s wife? Was she with arushi the day Dr. Nupur told hemraj to stay back home????
June 11th, 2008 at 11:26 am
HI preeti,
CAN YOU GIVE ME THE WEBSITE??????? to see raju alive…
June 11th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Dear BBBB
I remember reading it somewhere on the website/news channel. this would have been 3 weeks ago. It did not specify the relation and only said sister in law
June 11th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Dear BBBB
I did a google search and there it is on NDTV where dr Nupur talwar says in her interview. they had lunch together, then she took her to her nani’s place, then dr nupur went to work and latyer picked her up from her class, then they enterd home and generally chatted .
So if this was the case then why did dr nupur call hemraj not to leave the house ???????????? this is getting mysterious by the moment
June 11th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
I understand from the statement issued by the CBI Joint Director Arun Kumar that Krishna consented to the narco anaylisis test and the court’s permission was duly granted for the test to be caried out .
June 11th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Jq -
That link did not work. Sorry.
June 11th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Pixie…i read the ndtv article about nupur sistern in law..yes it writes clearly that nupurs sister in law was at home…and they had lunch together…but does not mention anything about her sistern in law…if she was at dinner or at night at home?….please correct me if i m wrong
June 11th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
hi pixie,
It is all confusing…..15 news channels give 15 different stories….someone aired the MMS also…now that channel will be sued…
I still dont understand why they locked the daughter…or exactly what media wants to tell by saying they locked her always…
It should be a door which locks from inside the room and if you want to open then you have to use a key to open from outside….
June 11th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
sorry it was pasted incomplete…here is it..pls try
http://www.cricketndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080050858&ch=5/26/2008%204:31:00%20PM
June 11th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
yes it is same door….but the keys use to be kept by talwar under their pillow before the off to the bed!
June 11th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Jq- yes its the same article.i think she was ther for lunch
June 11th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
This case has given a very strong vision of how our police works. how our media works. Simple things they have messed up so much and still they are strong.
If cops work this was then it is better not to have them.
In a crime scene first work of cops is to collect as much as evidence as possible. clict photos of the murdered from all possible angles and once a thorough investigation is done they have to seal the place completely.
Why they didnt do a single thing in this case?????? Why they just want to forcefully push cases on anyone as they like????????
This is all wrong things happening these days.
Still the crime is increasing only.
today also some thing happened in delhi…..
Who will control this and who will change the system of these cops??????????????????????
June 11th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
CBI finds the previous maid Raju who was supposed to be dead some months back. Seems like it was a case of mistaken identity.
June 11th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
ya Raju is alive,Krishna revealed some secrets to CBI about the illicit relation of Mr.Talwar and Mrs.Durrani. How can Mr.Talwar blame Aarushi’s character by saying that he found Aarushi and Hemraj are in objectionable position it’s all trash.When Hemraj was having whiskey with other three member in his room secretly.I think Mr.Talwar tried a lot to create Aarushi as bad girl in the society so everybody will hate her and forget about the case then he can easily come out of the case.
I request CBI to question Mr.Talwar like anything if he is not responding use all the degrees on him.
June 11th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
TO SATYA
talwar never tried to create arushi as bad girl. Who said this? this is the police who saying these comments objectionable but not compromising.
if all the people thinking that Talwar is innoscent and he didnt do anything then why police and now CBI is not leaving him.So listen my dears there r something that police and cbi have found which making them difficult to spare talwaar
June 11th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
I understand Dr Talwar has been charged with the murders of Arushi and Hemraj and the destruction of evidence . Krishna has been detained without charge since the 3rd June 2008 in breach of the rules as to detention . Although he is a suspect and cannot be ruled out , I am concerned as to the manner of his detention .The Human Rights Commission needs to be involved in the matter so as to ensure that his rights are protected . The difference in the treatment of two men is an issue that the media needs to take up as there is no one else who could do so on behalf of Krishna . The media are often criticised for sensationalising cases or we hear cries of ” media trial ” . If they don’t take up such issues people like Krishna will end up as statistics or worse still , serving sentences for crimes they may not have comitted . Justice not only needs to be done but it should be seen to be done .
June 11th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Satya,
You did not seem to follow the whole track of the news.
Talwar never said that he found his daughter in objectionable position. Noida police stated that.
But my guess is that they must have been absolutely false.
CBI is on the right track. Krishna must be a suspect as he accepted to be there that night at 8:00
He also agreed that He went to the terrace.
But to do what? thats the question.
June 11th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Certainly it sounds to be highly dramatic but coming to insicive turn where Krishna will be found guilty and indict for such blood curdling murders. As there is no live witness, krishna is trying to sway CBI and Police by narrating love stories between durrani and Rajesh while raffishing their characters and vehemently pointing himself being guiltless.
“Truth will out”
I beleive he himself has done the crime by first killing Arushi and then taking intoxicated Hemraj to the roof and slitting his throat after hitting him from the back.
What I have understood that this is a onesided love story where Krishna use to have evil eye on Arushi. Though Arushi must have declined his offer and may not have told her parents because of some apprehension and on otherside Hemraj must be protecting Arushi and must have dissention or verbly scuffle with Krishna in past. This lead to the insurrection and vengeance for killing both by Krishna.
If it is prooved then I would like to Suggest that Krishna should be get Capital punishment.
“HANG TILL DEATH”
June 12th, 2008 at 5:14 am
Hi Sanjay –
Yes i agree with you. I have a very strong feeling that Krishna is deeply involved in this case.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:28 am
my head is reeling!!!!!!! I am a ardent fan of murder mysteries but this one has me hooked. Anyways I still dont rule out that the parents are innocent. Picture this, ur affluent, have only one daughter and she gets killed like this, what do u do? even if u have slightest doubt wont u start screaming. then why arent they saying krishna did this? or even maybe he did this? I read the mothers interview somewhere where she said I thought hemraj did it, now I dont know? Doesnt it sound ridiculous, wont normal parents be crying hoarse even if they find the smallest evidence. so if the evidence in this case is against krishna or raju then why dont they say yeah they could have done it and in the process wont rajesh talwar be freed? but he is quiet? why? can we think his silence is because he is hiding something? was he knowingly or unknowingly a partner in crime?
June 12th, 2008 at 5:51 am
I agree Krishna should be punished, look at his face and he totally looks like a murder. One important point to note, earlier police had commented that murder was done by “kookri”, which is nothing but a nepali knife.
Krishna should be arrested.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:52 am
hi
June 12th, 2008 at 6:24 am
Today in TimesNow channel has shown the brother of Raju(who worked with Talwars)is saying that Raju is really died in road accident.Vishnu on whom we are all doubting is not in the country on that night.One girl (who is Krishna’s niece) is saying that night Krishna was at home and they watched ICL live cricket match on that night and Krishna went to bed at 10PM,ya what she told may be correct but there is a possibility that he can go to Mr.Talwar house after confirming that all his family members went to sleep anyhow murders happened between 1AM to 2AM. and regarding the finger prints CBI has collected finger prints and foot print after 20days of the crime in between many people visited the crime scene.What I am suspecting is Krishna is very much present in Talwars house and the way he is taking with media is nothing but just acting.If he is really that much scary about these murders 1.why he went to Talwars house for cleaning Aarushi room and throwing mattress of Arushi which are main evidences for further investigations.2.Krishna is saying to the media that CBI is framed him just to save Talwar why he is specifically mentioning Mr.Talwar why not Mrs.Talwar.3.Krishna is dare devil and he is holding some key information about Mr.Talwar.
According to mobile call records Aarushi did not make any calls to Krishna and Krishna ringed up to Aarushi only 2times that too just to know Hemraj is present or not, from this it’s clear that Aarushi behavior towards servants is very reserved and decent.Aarushi is very loving and respectable towards her servants otherwise Krishna wouldn’t have ringed up to her know about other servent Hemraj.
June 12th, 2008 at 6:40 am
Hi Detective gal…
In my opinion, if mrs. or mr. talwar will start screaming by getting an initial evidence against krishna…media and people will still think other way round…and think they are screaming to save mr. talwar..and put everything on krishna..the compounder….they are quiet..may be bcoz also got shock that krishna, their compounder could be involved as well!!….But yes, agreed Krishna has some key information that could lead CBI to find the main culprit….I GUESS!!!
June 12th, 2008 at 6:43 am
Satya…the story of Raju seams to be very confusing!!! ….If police has records of him being dead…how CBI found raju is alive..and now again..brother confessing that raju is dead!!!…..
June 12th, 2008 at 6:51 am
Dr Talwar( danto ka doctor) …
murder was with kookri…the nepali knife..as reports says…but who knows whom did it belong to? may be somebody stolen it to prove himself innocent and prove owner as culprit….???? to get into this…it is very important for CBI to find the knife!!!….it being nepali kookri does not prove krishna ONLY as murderer….may be he is the supporter…or somebody forcefully involved him….or he still has threat and so is not disclosing him…may be murderer is not nepali but he planned well so that everybody suspect nepali househelpers….lot of possibilities…i think major proof can be the weapon or the place where it is hidden?
June 12th, 2008 at 6:53 am
Arushi was a tennager who loved life .. We all have attractions and crushes when we r teenagers and she might be having too but that DOES NOT MEAN she had questionable character. We must focus on the point as to WHO led the police to believe that she had objectionable relation with Hemraj .. It will automatically move in thE direction to someone who wanted to defame aarushi /take out his anger /frustration on her . It is very much possible that Krishna sneaked out from his home after midnight to visit the talwar house. In yesterday’s interview- reporter asked Sunita- Krishna’s neice wether she had khukri in the house. she confirmed the same and also said that teh cbi took a look at it and said it was not sharp .. who knows how many khukris they have in their house and which one was show to the cbi?
June 12th, 2008 at 7:30 am
Actual story
When they found arushi murdered, at that point only the strong step should have been taken to prevent all the clues and evidences.
Due to our great cops and media….this case sounds something else…
The medical examination says they were hit in the head and throat slit open….they do guess works about knife.
till now it is just the guess work of cops and media…..
June 12th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Hi,
I think we have all forgotten the name dinesh sharma who is the man, according to rajesh talwar, who is trying to frame him for the murders. who is this dinesh sharma?
June 12th, 2008 at 8:39 am
just thinking aloud…..
a)if it is such a well planned crime why would the culprits leave their glasses on the table, fingerprints and all?
b)the fingerprints of krishna on the airconditioner..how can one ascertain whether they occured a day before or after the crime?
c)if rajesh talwar can be picked up by police due to circumstantial evidence against him, what about the mother?
June 12th, 2008 at 9:32 am
Krishna is undergoing even Narco Analysis Test in Bangalore.Entire CBI team along with the Chief are in Bangalore.We have to notice that CBI is not saying that Mr.Talwar is clean and They are not even saying that Krishna is the murderer.One important thing here is cbi is not arrested Krishna up to now.IF they are clear that Krishna is the culprit they can arrest him and do their investigations.I think that Krishna is holding some key information about Talwars so CBI is questioning him to get that information.
June 12th, 2008 at 9:37 am
why isn’t narco test being done on dr rajesh/ i read somewhere he is terrified of going under the test . is it because he is scared of revealing all?
both teh parents must under narco test .
June 12th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Hi jq,
they is a saying that “MANY COOKS SPOILED THE SOUP”.Actually this is a straight case but Police,CBI,Different media people are investigating the case so this much confusion is oook???.But the good thing here is CBI can not do the investigations by taking money and all like many other agencies.So let us hope that CBI is going to crack the mystery very soon by today evening only.Then only we will get peace to all our souls.
June 12th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Due to lots of pressure from media the cops picked up dr. talwar and tried to make up with stories without any evidence….looking at this the family of arushi asked for CBI in this case….so it is simple……
Why Krishna is again talking about Dr. and his Female friend ????????? I dont think he knows anything as such…..he is lying….but WHY ??????
Yes the finger prints of krishna in the house and his statement he was in the house at 8.30pm on that night maked him a suspect…..
But why they are holding Dr. Talwar….there is no reason…
June 12th, 2008 at 10:07 am
I have heard that, Dr. Talwar told his compounder Krishna to put the blood soaked matress of arushi on the terrace…….
Was the terrace locked or Krishna didnt see the dead body of hemraj or….any story about it???????????
June 12th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Anyone know where was hemraj’s room by the way….was it inside the flat or was it in the terrace or where…..
June 12th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Does anyone remember that there was something about a ‘whiteish discharge’ found on/next to Arushi’s body but no sample was preserved??????
Also I am a little unsure about exactly what grounds Rajesh Talwar is being held on. Can someone please clarify this? Would those same reasons/grounds not apply to Nupur Talwar to be interrogated in the same way as her husband??
June 12th, 2008 at 10:36 am
why has vishnu returned to Nepal? Police has asked relatives and known people to Talwar family not to leave the country…how was he able to leave the country?
The way case has been going…i m soon it will soon loose place from context of news and channels..and subsequently removing pressure from CBI and police to find culprit ….
June 12th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Hi REALITY,
I think you are not following the behavior and statements of Mr.Talwar.Why he did Aarushi’s final rites so hurrying,He was on phone u to 12PM that night according to his call record but still he saying that I don’t know,I don’t remember and main pareshan tha.He is not at all cooperating either the police or CBI.There is a lot of variation in his statements.Why he lied to the police that he ringed up to Hemraj on 16th at 6:30AM according to his call records no call was made to Hemraj on that bad morning.Why he allowed his workers to clean the room of Aarushi and trowed her mattress .If CBI leave him he will come out and destroy what ever the remaining witnesses are left out.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:01 am
If I remember correctly, Hemraj’s room was near the main door.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Vishnu was questioned once and he disappeared soon after, before police or CBI could issue directives not to leave the region.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Hi Vishnu,
Then why not CBI put Dr. Talwar for narco test?????
and any idea where hemraj used to sleep….about his room….was it inside the flat or on the terrance??????????????????
June 12th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Hi Angie,
I think the room where hemraj used to sleep no one has told any thing…….
Was it on the terrace…
Anyway not inside the flat right??????
June 12th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Krishna and someone else (Vishnu) carried the mattress to the terrace. It was reported that the body was covered by a cooler lid and was hidden. Readers have asked about the size of the lid. The first photo pasted at the top showed the condition of the terrace. Nobody has answered why the stains were not noticed when the men carried the mattress up there.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:08 am
To all,
latest news has come….
KRISHNA wnet through narco test and most of the question he answered saying “i dont know” and it seems CBI is taking him as innocent…..
What next now?????????????????????
any idea anyone???????????
June 12th, 2008 at 11:10 am
There are no details on the Dinesh Sharma. The internet search shows that there are several men who have the same name.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Hi Angie,
Krishna and the Driver took the matress to the terrace…right….how and any more details about it and looks like hemraj’s room was on the terrace….any details….
June 12th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Hemraj’s room was not clearly described; except that it was near the main door. His room should be inside the main flat. There are 2 entrances/exits to the flat; the main door and the opening to the terrace. Krishna was described as entering via one way and then exiting via another way. I guess the terrace has a long staircase leading down.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Hi Angie- the 1st photo on this blog shows the terrace where Hemraj’s body was found,the mattress was kept on the neighbours terrace as they could not find the key to their side of the terrace door.
1-The mattress was put up there after they got ploce clearance to clean teh room as reported in the news.
2- No one has remarked on the broad trail of blood on the terrace leading towards the cooler.. suggesting that the body was dragged towards the cooler. what can one analyse from it ?
June 12th, 2008 at 11:23 am
It is a bit gruesome to think that they carried the mattress through the neighbor’s house, and then out to their neighbor’s terrace.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Hemraj’s room was opposite Aarushi’s room,at the other end of the drawing room. Same floor, inside the flat.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Some reports said the body was dragged to a place to hide on the terrace. When there was no place available, the cooler lid was placed on top of the body.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Looking at the top photo it looks like they had a big fight on the terrace…finally hemraj was killed…..he had some hair in his mouth also…
his post mortem report told he had taken alcohol too….any more details in this part…
June 12th, 2008 at 11:32 am
There are some discrepancies in the post mortem report on Hemraj. Different websites wrote different things. The report may have said alcohol was present or alcohol was not present.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:40 am
I think they put the matress from their terrace to neighbour’s terrace…was it done after hemraj’s body was found????
media has missed out most of the things to report on…..
June 12th, 2008 at 11:42 am
If Krishna is also gave the same answers like Mr.Talwar I don’t know,I don’t remember then where is the necessity of conducting these tests and entire CBI booking a fight from Delhi to Bangalore along with that stupid.What is happening to our Police and investigating agencies for whom we are paying a lot of salaries and all facilities.Just to drag the cases.I request CBI please use manual methods on these criminals they are very hardcore and strong minds.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Cheeky,
You mean to say hemraj’s room was inside the flat along with the Talwar’s and Dr. talwar allowed him to have visitors ??????????????
And the 3 glasses show that he had visitors…..
Did Dr. talwar or Mrs. Dr. talwar say who had come to hemraj’s room that night ????????
June 12th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Reality.
as per the reports, i understand there was additional room on the terrace as well! i read this somewhere…about room on terrace
June 12th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Pixie is right about the door to the terrace from the Talwar’s residence. I read about that too. The key was missing or the lock could not open. By this time, there were very small traces of blood on the stairs up to the terrace but the two men did not notice. Only KK Gautam, the visitor, noticed. He was the one who noticed the clues. Then someone broke the lock and they went up to the terrace.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:51 am
If there was a room on the terrace, it should not concern the case unless there was someone else living in that room. Someone that was never mentioned?
June 12th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Hello Vishnu,
The cops have messed up everything or else this is a very simple case….the first day cops did not do their work properly. Do we need such police?????? and see media they have made this case a never ending story…..do we need such media..???????????
Someone has to take action against all of these fellows……take proper action and remove all cops we dont want such cops…..
they are good for nothing……
June 12th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Has somebody read this news (link is below)…one more case … i wonder police is to save people or to ruin them! one more hurting case…leaving black spot on the police department…few rotten police officers force public to loose trust from entire public department!
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/321331.html
My heartly condolences to Sarita!
June 12th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Jq,
I also head the same so i am asking.
I heard it is a bungalow with attached 8 houses…and all had terrace on top adjacent….
they have blocked all these 8 houses….
these have common entrance at the front….
anyone has details about the guard what he is saying ????????
June 12th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Reality…
nope, unfortunately nothing heard about the guard!!!
June 12th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Hi Reality,
Ya, that’s what the papers had shown in a sketch of the flat. Arushi’s room is right next to her parent’s room( supposedly the beds are only 6ft apart)& Hemraj’s room is opposite Arushi’s room, across the drawing room.
I guess the parents were too preoccupied with their own careers (or whatever else they are involved in!!) to be worrying about their servant’s guests.
No the Talwars haven’t said anything about any visitors to Hemraj’s room that night.
By the way is there any reason given why Dr.T was “pareshaan” that evening???
June 12th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
The news mentioned that the guard was questioned by police once.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Besides all the assumptions that media, public and police makes now…one unfortunate fact is “The Police has not adhered to the case very strictly from first day itself, and this has lead to so many assumptions today. Even the deceased ones were criticised …for some people it was good story and for media may be good headline to publish..!!!! May be someone innocent is suffering right now…who knows?”
It is our humble request to police to tighten up their shoes and do their duty honestly and with high intelligence. Not to get sympathic on such situations. This is not a justified reason for their negligence. If doctor thinks emotionally about patient getting hurt…how will he operate him?
And the officers who get involved like in case of sarita…should be hanged in open area…for other responsible people to take a lesson.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Hi Cheeky,
Dr. talwar was pareshaan and he took whisky also above all he is diabetic also..
His narco test has to be done….
some more details are needed out from him…..
June 12th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Hi Jq,
All is mixed up and it is cocktailed tooooo much I dont have hope CBI will also find out now…..
All are talking in assumptions only….
The cops at the first day did a biggest mistake of not taking the clues and evidences properly…why they dont want to work??????????????
June 12th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Angie, CSK: Dinesh is Rajesh’s brother. His last name is also Talwar, not Sharma or Verma. In the arrest video, Rajesh was yelling to his brother that someone was trying to frame him.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
i remember seeing a video footage on news channel- just as you enter the main door on the right hand side is hemraj’s door . not sure how it would look on the sketches.
It was a simple post mortem to be conducted an they goofed up that too.
The key concerned people are not bothered at all
Why are we trying to solve this case for someone we never met and never knew
Because we all feel for Arushi as though she was our own child. Her videos and photos could easily belong to someone like us or our kids.
Arushi has generated a mass hysteria that no other sensational murder mysteries could generate only because of who she was – Someone loving life and living life to teh fullest.
How many of you would you remember that case where a 21 yr old girl was found murdered and strangeled and stuffed with her hands tied behind her back in the bed storage while her parents slept fitfully on the bed? Her parents have since then seperated. the couple lost their only daughter. it was a grief they all shared.
And we all come close while grieving so what drove them apart ? Was it guilt feeling?
Lets see what happens to the talwar couple a few months henceforth – will they stick through or split?
June 12th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Hi Reality…yes..and Thats the sad part of the whole incident! you know wat i feel is…
CBI Should take remand of those officers who went first onsite…those who treated this case very lightly….CBI Should give them very hard time and memorise them the basic lessons of investigations…atleast…that if you cannot do anything else…please just seal the place…and relevant people into calm custody for various reports.
This should be done so that these and all other officers learn the lesson…they get to remember their training they got for being an officer!
did u read about sarika? wats wrong with the police? wat they say in hindi yeah – rakshak hai ya bakshak…
June 12th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
May be the reader meant the name of another person?
June 12th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Maybe Dr.T was pareshaan because he already knew that his little girl would be killed that night.Krishna also has said that for sometime Dr. T had been upset & would keep sending him out of the office on some pretext.Maybe thats why they wanted to give Arushi her birthday present that night itself coz they knew she wouldn’t be around for her birthday.
There are also reports that sometime during the evening Nupur & Arushi’s cellphones were swithched off. Why?? What does Nupur Talwar have to say about that????
June 12th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Hi pixie,
I read your comment and you are 100% right…at the same time see how our govt. police media is functioning….
we dont pay for these fellows….
They should be removed and taken action strictly…so no more arushi case comes up and no one suffers due to small things….
Crime is happening daily….
after this case tell me how many still came up?????????????????????????????????
June 12th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Yes, Pixie, I agree too that the key concerned people are not seeming concerned about finding out the truth behind this gruesome act.
Many of us are feeling a certain pain & deep concern about the whole thing because, yes, Arushi seemed to be a girl truely enjoying life… something each one of us desires to do & see our loved ones do!!
…dancing in the school corridors,heading a house at her school, leaving reminders for her friends about her upcoming birthday party.. how sweet & innocent is that!!!
….Gosh, makes me want to cry when I think of it all… a beautiful & alive person snuffed out… just like that.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
any updates regarding that 350 questions CBI prepared to ask Krishna.What replies they got for all the questions only I don’t know is the answer?????…Why that girl Krishna’s niece is so confident as she know that he saw the match up to 10PM after that he went to sleep.After that when this girl went to sleep did she noticed him on his bed even between 1AM to 6AM.Why everybody is giving all their statements even normal person can analise even she is saying that their is a KURKI in their house.what rubbish is this what CBI is doing in Bangalore why they are leaving Mr&Mrs Talwar from all these tests?We are all analysing that Krishna is present or not in that house on that fateful night???? but everybody knows that Mr&Mrs Talwar are very much present on that night.
June 12th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Forget all this CBI/She-b-I stuff and the narco -sharco politically correct stuff ! Just hand over this whole lot to the Punjab Police and the case will be solved in half an hour .They have ‘veys-an-means’ of getting to the bottom of a case at minimum cost to the tax payer .Results guaranteed every single time !
June 12th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
I agree
June 12th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
I feel the parents are guilty
a) Hemraj had a room on the terrace, so when Hemraj was suspected of the murder, the police should have logically looked for clues on the terrace.Only Talwars could have misled.
b) Friendly entry into the house, – Who would have opened the door from inside the house ? Only parents could have done it since Aarushi was locked in her room.
c) Why are parents not cooperating? arent they desperate to know what happenend to their daughter ?
d) With a young girl in the house why male servant at night?
e) If a person entered at night he must have a duplicate set of keys – front door, terrace, Aarushis room and must have made all these duplicates in advance.
f) Who could delete photos from camera, content from the computer ? Who has access? parents only could have passwords etc.
g)How come parents knew time of death
h) Why mattress on neightbours terrace ?
i) Why security at gate has nothing to say about who came to the house at night ?
j)Gate pass system is meaningless since nobody has record of entry and exit.
k)Could killers, if not the parents, then have entered from the terrace. Hemraj Killed since he saw the entry?
l) Was Hemrajs room so placed that entry could be gained into the flat through his room ?
m) How come no Narco test on Rajesh ? case shifted just when police about to do it.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
“Krishna has been detained without charge since the 3rd June 2008 in breach of the rules as to detention . Although he is a suspect and cannot be ruled out , I am concerned as to the manner of his detention .The Human Rights Commission needs to be involved in the matter so as to ensure that his rights are protected . The difference in the treatment of two men is an issue that the media needs to take up as there is no one else who could do so on behalf of Krishna”….i really agree with this statement of SS….why are the two people trated so differently? Dignity of Krishna is not respected.Nothing has been proved againgst him. The Human rights commission should take up this matter seriously.
June 12th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Dear Arushi lovers,
May Allah bless Arushi a special place in heaven.
It looks Arushi’s parents are not involved.
first of all no parents will do such act against their beloved child. If in real Dr. Rajesh has commited such act in fit of anger he would have confessed infront of the court. Instead he is crying, praying for his daughter and saying that he is innocent. One should understand that he is not a professional killer or a roudy who can withstand the tought interrogations of the police for such a long time and will accepts his sin. I beleive that the master minded killers might have gave them some sleeping dose or cloroform sniffing while they were sleeping. That is why they may not be aware what happend around them on that deadliest night of their life.
Nodia police and media has spoiled the case by disclosing the investigations and giving more chance to the killers in wiping the proofs.
I think CBI is in a right track.
May god bless Arushi.
June 12th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
recent news on timesofindia that krishnas narco no breakthrough.I think this case will take years to resolve like nitish katara murder case took 6 yrs though it was a clearcut case.
CBI this is india and no narco will b effective.. what effective is do 3rd degree on talwar and krishna both everything will b out.
June 12th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
CBI is just trying to divert the attention away from Dr. Talwar.
It is very very surprising that the narco test which should actually be done on Dr Talwar as he is suppose to be the main accused,is actually done on a person who might or might not be present in that house at that night.
This clearly says CBI is killing time, trying to take media’s and peoples attention away from the main accused, and trying to mislead everyone.
Two main officials of CBI who were working on this case till yesterday, their going on leave for one month from today also says something fishy is going on.
June 12th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Sunrise , I agree with you . The Talwars were suspects No.1 from day one . No one with any sense would think otherwise. Now that Krishna’s narco tests are over , the spotlight has shifted back to the Talwars . Lets hope this will be looked at again with fresh eyes and no stone will be left unturned in finding the killer . The parents have the answers . So do the Durranis . There is too much circumstantial evidence against them . The question is who is protecting them and why ? And for how long ?
June 12th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
I agree with Preeti, it would take years to solve.
By the feel of all that has been reported by TV and the newspapers,involvement of the parents can not be overlooked.
Sometimes “third degree” yeilds better results.
June 13th, 2008 at 2:04 am
There has to be a motive and that is what the CBI is looking for or trying to gather evidence to support. The circumstantial evidence is why Rajesh Talwar is not getting a clean chit. He or they might not have committed the actual murders themselves but it is possible that something that they were involved in has led to the murder, maybe even there had been threats against them and paricularly Aarushi, which would make them guilty of endangering their daughters (and Hemraj’s lives), and also explain why their initial shock and response to the cold blooded murders in their own house is so diminished.
First of all, there are only a couple of reasons why parents would lock a child in their room at night, especially in such a small flat with adjoining rooms. In a normal family, with so many people around in a friendly neighborhood, no one is even thinking that anything could happen.
It could not have been suspicious behavior with Hemraj. If you have any doubts about the intentions of a servant towards your daughter the first instint one would have would be to fire them and they had plenty of resources to replace him. Obviously they trusted Hemraj, as Dr. Nupur had instructed him to stay home that day as otherwise she would be alone.
Another reason to lock someone in a room is to keep them from coming out. Had she been sneaking around during the night to find out what was going on in her house, what her parents were doing? It would be necessary to know at what point in her life did they start locking her in her room at night? Back to the motive, The CBI must be looking for the names of anyone close to Dr. Talwar who could have been blackmailing him and threatening him, Aarushi or his wife, therefore scared for their lives and that is why they were hoping to get something from Krishna.
It is possible that Hemraj was supposed to be a player in this lucrative game of blackmailing the Talwars. It is possible that he was against it as he had showed some signs of loyalty to the family, and it is possible that he confided some parts of it to Aarushi. Which then she would begin to tell little by little some things to her friends. When the perpetrators felt that the whole scheme and all they stood to benefit was about to be blown wide open they decided to eliminate them. It is possible that with all the ‘clever’ cover-up tactics they used that the wouldn’t think that the Talwars would themselves be suspects. Or maybe that was in fact the plan
which is what Talwar is saying.
The CBI has to keep vigilant to solve this case. The Talwars were obviously in their ‘own world’ though they went through the routine of caring for Aarushi. This should be lesson to all.
June 13th, 2008 at 3:07 am
I strongly feel that there is something in the lost mobile phones which can crack the case. If Dr. Talwar has used “yahoomail” to access the mails. Which mail account did he access, was the yahoo account of Aarushi in autosign in mode(yahoo messenger).
Why cant the CBI take nacro analysis test on Dr. Talwar.
According to the news updates we are getting, I feel that Aarushi used to call her friends and chat with her friends. In short she is very much interested in keeping friends by making phone calls and by chats, which Dr. Talwar did not like, and may be he had warned about this to Aarushi. To check her contacts, Talwar used Aarushi’s computer telling that his Modem is slow.
And about the Nupur Talwar, think like as you were her. After a sad news about her daughters death and after that police pointing her husband to be the suspect, I dont feel that any mother or a wife could have any feelings which you guys think should have. For her tragedy is one after another.
(I dont like to believe father to be the killer)
June 13th, 2008 at 3:23 am
I too agree with Preethi,ya in this legal system it will take years to solve.Even today morning news all channels are silent about this case and they took up another Air hostess suicide and one more dalith lady case.In India it is very common after many we will see that some new fellow will get punishment for murdering Aarushi Talwar and immediately he will go to higher court for appeal.
Actually in every case parents and family members fights for their love ones.But poor Aarushi has nobody to fight for her for that many years.
June 13th, 2008 at 5:06 am
How come Narco and Brain Mapping tests have not been done on prime accused Dr. Rajesh, as well as wife Nupur and brother Dinesh Talwar?
Why this obvious favouritism?
These tests on all 3 are a must.
June 13th, 2008 at 5:22 am
first narco analysis on krishna might not have been in vain. it has valuable some info if krishna is not misleading.
“He also said that Aarushi was innocent”
“According to sources,it was also said that Talwar, Aarushi’s father, may be innocent”
“Krishna also spoke about how, where and when the murder occurred.”
“Krishna admitted that a second person was involved in the murder”
now waiting for 2nd narco test on krishna on friday, which is believed to be more intense
read the story.
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/jun/13aarushi.htm
June 13th, 2008 at 6:53 am
Hi Jodha,
I accept with you you.Locking a girl in her room for whole the night is really abnormal.But there is a possibility that the room of Aarushi may be having automatic locking system in that if she want to come out of the room she can come but others want to enter in to the room means they need a key and the key is with Mr.Talwar.For that Mr.Talwar is excusable.And one more important thing is no evidence was removed from the crime scene,3-4 glasses with a whiskey bottle is there,body of Hemraj is there,blooded mattress is there everything is just the same.but the weapons used,mobiles of Aarushi and Hemraj are eliminated.The cloths which Aarushi and Mr.Talwar wore on 15th are not there.Important thing to note here is after the murders the murderer(s) operated Aarushi computer to delete some data and mails of Aarushi and some body two days before the murder used Mr.Talwras computer for a search of some sedatives.Even a common people like us will get a doubt that it’s none other than Mrs&Mr.Talwar.How come servants knows about the passwords of Aarushi and how come they use Mr.Talwars computer.If they are that much preplanned about this murders then why they left the glasses they used in Hemraj room.Just to side track the issue these 3glases and whiskey bottle are still in Hemraj’s room.
June 13th, 2008 at 7:00 am
Ya I accept with Vishnu.According to news after the murders on the very next day Krishna came to Mr.Talwar house cleaned Aarushi room and he trowed Aarushi blood mattress on neighbors terrace and he eliminated all the evidences.If Krishna is really involved on that night and he is a drinking partner with other two why he did not throw the glasses and whiskey bottle?why he kept it like that?
June 13th, 2008 at 7:19 am
Me too agree with Vigilant. Narco test should be done on these 3 persons. As soon as possible.
June 13th, 2008 at 7:24 am
Kidnapping/ransom angle is what should be investigated. As someone righty said it is a lucrative market all over U.P.
June 13th, 2008 at 7:29 am
Hi Jodha,
Appreciate your analysis.
June 13th, 2008 at 8:18 am
I wonder if the accused (Dr T) is gettting updates on whatever revelations from the narco on krishna? Any more delays are not feasible, for a narco test on Dr.Talwar
Wonder of the wonders is what makes them not to support the investigations? If they are not interested to bring out the truth, who else should be. Reason enough to get Talwars(Mr & Mrs) under all grades of investigative methods.
RIP Aarushi & Hemraj. It is a big bad world. your good now. Everyone will be going through what is due.
June 13th, 2008 at 8:44 am
latest up date is CBI is conducting all the tests on Mr.Talwar today.From all the tests CBI concluded that Krishna don’t know anything about the motive of the murder as well as murder weapon.Now again the entire case is around Mr.Talwar.Let’s hope that CBI will succeed and get some information about these mysterious murders.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:21 am
SATYA
if krishna doesnt know about the motive an dweaopn, howcome he said that murders happen “when how and where with khukri and 2 people” by rediff.
I am wondering whats cookin here..if krishna knows a wee bit about murder he must know 100%.then why he is not telling and why is he giving clues if he donno anything.
Rajesh talwar used to lock her daughter bcos it was a night latch dr nupur said.night latch is what bcomes locked wehn u shut the door either can b opened from inside or with keys outside.
Killer may have knocked the arushis room and she opened thinking her parents r knocking.this is another possiblilty in case.
i dont know how true the rediff news is ? bcos every news channel wants to put masala
June 13th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Hi SATYA,
you raised a nice point but Mr.Talwar is saying that he always used to put the keys under his pillow and that day when he awaken he noticed that key are not under pillow and they are on a horizontal painting.He is also confirming that murderers opened her room with those keys.It’s not like Aarushi opened the door thinking that her parents.
you have any current updates please post here.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Hi Preethi,
Even I wonder even some of our friend also put the same doubt that how can they kept keys on horizontal painting.From all the updates up to now we have to notice that murderers killed Hemraj and dragged him on one corner and carefully covered his body.Then they came out and locked the terrace and the terrace keys is missing let’s hope key is with murderers again they opened Aarushi’s room with keys(that are under Mr.Talwar’s pillow) killed her and locked the room and again kept the keys in Mr.Talwars room.The murderers also locked the main door and gate from out side and went.Why every time they are taking that much safety on Mr.Talwars house I don’t understand.And one more important thing is they even cleaned all the blood strains on the stair case.Who will do all these thing very patiently.They even took the clothings of Mr.Talwar and Aarushi’s wore on 15thMay a day before murder.And all the time Mr&Mrs Talwars are sleeping in their bed room. don’t understand why police,CBI or media everybody is still believing Mr.Talwar.I hope that CBI will get some information today from the tests they are conducting on MR.Talwar
June 13th, 2008 at 10:22 am
see updates on rediff link given above.
krishna told soemthing to cbi
June 13th, 2008 at 10:47 am
satya still do u believe that dr talwar is innoscent? why do an outsider will do evry gate lock and clean staircase and linger near the murdersite around 6 am in morning when dr talwar called on hemrajs cell.
who will delete all pic in camera all data on pc and why
these all shows that somewhere parents r suspicious
June 13th, 2008 at 10:50 am
hi Preethi and Satya,
If for a moment let’s think that Mr.Talwar is murderer then
1.why he did it in his house and he is also there in that night?
2.Why he wasted much time on cleaning the stair case instead disposing or throwing Hemraj body some where?Much time was there(nearly 4hours) to dispose his body.
3.how can he spend time to delete mails of Aarushi before sitting her dead body.
I think this is act of 2 or 3 boys who are very close to Aarushi, they used to come to Mr.Talwars house to meet Aarushi in the day time and when Talwar is not in house at that time they might have used his computer for searching sedatives.They only gave sedation to Mrs&Mr.Talwars. After confirming that her parents are sleeping Aarushi herself might have open the door and invited them.They are also close to Hemraj and had a drink party that night with him.They might have shared some secrets with Aarushi through mails that is the reason they deleted her mails.Only friends or parents knows the passwords.
I don’t think this is a preplanned murder by Mr.Talwar who is well educated,matured and influenced.He can do it in a better manner.
This is a preplanned murder by some crazy boys that is why everybody is doubting and questioning the parents.Why everybody is having a doubt on Mrs&Mr.Talwar because the way they went to Haridwar in hurry,As a parents they might have worried about their prestige and the further medical tests on Aarushi’s body if anything comes out what the society will think about their parental care and all.Even yesterday Krishna in his narco test told that Mr.Talwar was irritated whenever he used to get calls from Hemraj.From this I understood that Hemraj might have ringed up to Talwar to tell about the visiting of these guys (Aarushi’s friends)to the house.
This is all my imagination.
Even after moving earth and heaven CBI didnot get any information from Krishna,from this it is clear that Krishna is not involved.MrTalwar even in narco tests saying that he don’t know.
I am feeling that CBI should also inquire Aarushi’s friends in depth.
Definitely Aarushi is having some friends which are not liked by their parents by observing her call record we can say it.The way she used to get sms and then making calls to them.And Mr&Mrs.Talwar were also worrying about her friends and her behavior that is the reason they din’t allow her to go pictures with her friends.The way they are checking her room daily night and locking it so that nobody can enter into her room.The way they are saying Hemraj to stay with her as she is alone at home.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:51 am
who will take arushi. dr talwars cloth away?and why? obviously dr talwar only.
June 13th, 2008 at 11:37 am
desi abroad,
check out this news from this site itself updated on 23rd hune. maybe this angle will give some answers.
“There were conflicting reports from media. Some press reports wrote that Rajesh Talwar had confessed. Some wrote that he protested his innocence. Rajesh Talwar said that a man called Dinesh Verma framed him for the murders.”
I know that dinesh is rajesh talwars brother and his surname will be naturally talwar.
June 13th, 2008 at 11:46 am
why wasnt the mother too arrested alongwith her husband. i feel maybe she did all this to frame her husband to extract revenge for his extra marital affairs. maybe the husband knows this and asked her forgiveness and now she is telling media her husband is innocent.just the other day i read that a mother stabbed her 3 kids after a fight with her husband in uk
June 13th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
I accept that there are many loop holes in these murders and all are just against to Mr.Talwar.There are two different version in this mystery
If we take the version of police it is just suitable to Mr.Talwar ya there are many possibility he can do it in a fit of anger for two reasons 1.Just to silent Aarushi and Hemraj on his illicit relationship with Mrs.Durarni.
2.After seeing Aarushi and Hemraj in an objectionable position(not compromising position)
so one can believe that he has not taken any precautions and just killed them without any plan so all these points are against him.
If we take CBI version they are declaring that this is a preplanned murder not a murder done in a fit of anger then how can Mr.Talwar do such a stupid preplanned murders in which each and every point is just against to him.
And one important thing here is by using Mr.Talwar computer there was a search for sedatives.
let us think that that search was done by Talwar but either Aarushi or Hemraj are not sedated that night,CBI is confirming that Aarushi was screamed on that night and Hemraj had some fight with the murderers.Why he searched for the sedatives when he is not used them.
The persons sedated on that night are Mr&Mrs.Talwar because of that reason they slept like that and they just don’t know anything.
Now a days it’s a common practice that parents are busy with their jobs and children are getting their friends to home,those friends use all the things in the house specially first they will start operating computers and electronics items.I am thinking that this murder is done by Aarushi’s friends, they only searched for sedatives by using Mr.Talwar computer and used the same on Mrs&Mr.Talwar.They even used digital camera of Aarushi and then deleted all the photos.They only deleted the mails from Aarushi mail box. Aarushi might also wanted to celebrate with them so she might have switched off her mobile.One of those guys with a preplanned intension went out and ringed up to Hemraj mobile from PCO and answered from the same house.They did everything very cool and calm because they know that Mrs&Mr.Talwar are in unconscious.These are all my imaginations but still I am missing some point which are not coming to my detective brain:)
June 13th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Hi vishnu.
your imaginations might have been right if there was any sexually assault with arushi. The friends if present that night and want to celebrate ..what would they have celebrated with a girl other than sex?and after that killed that girl but why.. still no motive behind the murder can b accomplish with this story.arushis mobile was inactive after 9 pm and she had dinner around 10:30pm. no no this story doesnt add up
June 13th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Some of the assertions I’ve been reading in the last day are at best unconfirmed. What credible source ever confirmed that Aarushi was locked up at night? The judgement that the Talwar’s “were obviously in their ‘own world’” and not caring for Aarushi is unfair. How well do any of us know the family? From all accounts, they seem to have been a happy, well-adjusted family. What credible source says that Aarushi’s clothing is missing? What credible source says that Aarushi’s computer was tampered with?
June 13th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
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June 13th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
All I can say is ” Oh Lord ! Spare me some of the idiocy that is being posted here . ”
June 13th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Observations from jodha and few from satya is quite interesting. CBI should read these, if they are stuck somewhere..
June 13th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Strange one day the news is that the narco test on Krishna has given no leads – then when the illegal detention is questioned the picture changes completely. WHY no Narco test on Talwar till now ? When body has been disposed off and there is no way to confirm the weapon
June 13th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
what test is done on dr talwar earlier? wasnt that narco test then what was it?how narco, lie detector and brain mapping differ?
June 14th, 2008 at 12:08 am
There were 2 lie detector tests. Equipment was attached to measure his heartbeat and blood pressure when he responded to questions.
The narco test requires a serum to be injected. It lowers the resistance to keep silent to questions. It is risky because it may cause damage if something goes wrong. A second more detailed narco test would involve brain mapping where more specific questions are asked or the same questions are asked with variations.
The media has reported on those details.
June 14th, 2008 at 12:48 am
wait…whose krishna?
its sad that arushi died..if in the end we find that there was no appenet reason 2 kill her and hemraj….then its very upsetting..its still upsetting that she died..but 4 no reason then…u get what i meam?
may arushi and hemraj b in peace :[
June 14th, 2008 at 12:57 am
Everyday I get up wondering if the mystery is solved but it just deepens, just saw in IBN that new suspect has been interrogated some rajkumar who is the servant at Durranis and then the durani couple have been questioned again. Also that krishna has been arrested. I am just putting down some points. They may be far fetched but can be possible too. Some inputs by vishnu, jodha and satya are very appreciated. I am just building on them.
1. I dont think krishna knew about the glasses or he would have disposed them. OR those glasses were planted by him to confuse the police.
2. Krishna is involved in some way. See people who know about the layout of house, sleeping habits, door being locked are family members, hemraj and krishna. so he could have given this information to the killers maybe even unknowingly said it. Now he puts two and two together and as some reports state he know how the murders were done.
3. I kinda agree to vishnu’s theory that maybe some guys had come home and drugged her parents. Maybe initially they started out good and misbehaved with arushi, so hemraj wasnt drugged heard the commotion and tried saving her and got killed. maybe their plan of meeting at home was decided through emails and so they deleted it. They knew that arushi’s parents were sleeping and so calmly removed all traces of evidence.
4. Before these guys came maybe hemraj had company with some guys and so the glasses remained there. Whoever killed them never touched the glasses and so he didnt bother to remove it
hmm now only time will tell who the killer is. Hope she gets justice soon.
June 14th, 2008 at 2:04 am
Another twist in this case
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Krishna’s phone details reveal that he received a phone call from CBI office in Delhi a day before Aarushi’s murder
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http://www.zeenews.com/articles.asp?redirectpage=a&aid=448727&sid=NAT
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I think that if this news is correct then some higher investigating agency in India need to investigate on this aspect.
June 14th, 2008 at 2:54 am
Desi Abroad, Aarushi’s door being locked at night was confirmed by Dr. Nupur herself in her first TV interview with NDTV. And it has been one of the facts from the very get go in every newspaper story, internet article etc. In fact, when the CBI came on the case, on of the first things they established, and made a big deal about it, was that her door was not closed that night?? Or had been opened by the key which was missing from under Dr. Talwars pillow,then later found to be hanging on a painting? I still think having a self -locking door in a flat is strange, this you can expect in a hotel not a house, in India?. It raises questions. And if they were that worried about their daughter’s safety, why did they come home at 10:30pm every night and eat dinner at 11:00pm on a regular basis? That is pretty uncaring of a just turning 14 year old girl with no siblings. About the Talwars, I think everyone is having a hard time accepting their shock and response levels to something as grave and gruesome a matter as your own daughter in a room next to their own while they were sleeping.
One would be consumed with guilt and regret, also one would be angered at the unknown murderers and WANT TO KNOW WHY SOMEONE WOULD JUST PICK THEIR HOUSE TO COME IN AND COMMIT THIS DOUBLE MURDER?
Might they even be scared that the murderers would return at some point and kill them as well?
None of these appeared to be issues with Dr. Nupur in the T.V. interview even after many days wherein she had time to intellectualize it and analyze it. How very different the attitudes of Scarlett Keeling’s mother and Dr. Nupur were. The one thing Scarletts mother said over and over and over again to the press was that she wanted justice for her daughter. She also oversaw the post mortem, even taking pictures to make sure that nothing could be misrepresented which it had been. The Talwars, instead of holding their daughter for every forensic test available that could give clues, instead rushed and went to Hardiwar. Okay, at the end of the day, the Talwars may very well be innocent but the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming and that is why the police can not drop it so easily until of course they get the murder weapon which is highly unlikely at this point or someone confesses. Or, if the website that controlled her Facebook profile releases information regarding from which computer it was deleted which I understand the CBI has petitioned for.
June 14th, 2008 at 4:06 am
Indian Woman,
It’s actually the other way round as per websites. ie krishna tried to call CBI on 14th after 12 noon.
June 14th, 2008 at 4:18 am
Jodha, I thought maybe I had missed something the first couple of times I watched the Nupur Talwar interview on NDTV, but I didn’t. I just re-watched it, and Nupur never states that she was ‘locked up’ in her room at night. If you can tell us where in the interview she says it, we’d all like to know.
June 14th, 2008 at 4:20 am
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Day-before-murders-Krishna-called-CBI/322694/
June 14th, 2008 at 4:33 am
Link above says it was a 1 second call FROM landline to Krishna – could it not be a mis-dialled number? That has happened to me.
June 14th, 2008 at 5:16 am
I have been following this case very closely. Since Geeta and Sanjay chopra murder case this case has taken peoples interest at a large scale.
My obsevations after so many days of detailed reading is as follows..
1 DR. talwar happened to know about His daughter’s life style( may be MMs or close friendships with boys.)he is disturbed. he comes home takes away his daughters mobile to check it,checks it and switches it off(.there was a news that she was beaten on that night.) may be after finding some thing in the phone and camera , he is disturbed, drinks alcohl. Mean while they have dinner. On Dr. Nupur’s insistence they go to room with the gift they want to give for her b’day. some arguement ensues. Dr.is enraged , he manhandles her.During that scuffle he pushes his daughter and accidentally her head is hit hard with the wall. She dies being a frail and very young child
Now Dr .Couple comes to senses.( Dr Talwars suspicious behavior and contradictory statements have forced me to draw these inferences and also Nupur talwars behavior gets justified)
At that time probably Hemraj, Rajkumar and Krisna are sitting in servant’s room taking alcohl.Dr bribes them and seeks their help.They discuss and try to show as it as a murder case. Some one from them slits Arushi’s throat and put stab wounds on her face. Since hemraj loved the little girl as his own, doesn’t agree and is killed in the process.( this explains Krishna’s entry from main door and exit from terrace.and also explains the death of hemraj 2 hrs later than Arushi)
Whole of the night all of them kept on eliminatin the evidences, cleaning stairs, removing pix from camera, removing emails from comp and they might have planned to remove hemraj’s body later, so the terrace door locked and keys lost.( this explais why Krishna did not mention about the dead body though he threw the mattress on the neighboring terrace.)
mobile phones nad the weapons have been disposed off while going to haridwar.I read some where probably the car was driven by Rajkumar .All the culprits were doing it in unison.( this explains Dr.’s hurry to go to Haridwar on the second day itself and with no other males of the family, where as its a common practise to go to haridwar on the 4 th day and females dont go, where as Nupur talwar also accompanied her husband .
Dr Talwar had assured the servants that he has contacts and the case will be disposed off as a normal murder case, but it took media frenzy and they all r in a soup.
If we think on these lines every persons behaviour falls in the right place.Dr talwar’s misguiding the police, disposing off the body fastest possible, not cooperating with the police.
. Krishna’s throwing mattress on the neighbour terrace and not seeing their terrace where the gory tale of a gruesome murder is written.
Nupur talwar’s supporting her husband as death occured accidentally. she lost her daughter accidentally she could not loose her husband also, as she knows her husbands’ intentions were clear and he loved his daughter ,wan ted her to be a good and successful girl.
Since i have brought up two teen age girls recently. i know the hardships while taking care of girls during such times. So i am of this opinion that a father can never plan to kill his only child , that too a daughter, though it has happened accidently by Dr. Talwar.
May the souls of the deceased rest in peace.
June 14th, 2008 at 5:23 am
My observations,
Talwars are aware of murders but not involved. they are threatened/black mailed not to releave any thing to police. Or they were drugged that day.
Its a preplanned murder.
Bribing could have happened during initial stages that helped in destrucion of evidence or forcing accusing of Talwar.
June 14th, 2008 at 6:22 am
I think Krishna missed call to CBI office on 14th May is just a trick of CBI to divert the main murderers,Because nobody knows about the call record of Krishna up to now.CBI is giving many statements on Krishna first they told that Krishna is cooperating for the investigations,next they told that he is present on that night but not involved in murder,next they told that he is having some key information,they also told that Krishna don’t know about the motive of murder and murder weapons.And finally they arrested him and saying that he gave missed call to CBI a day before murder.Let them proceed with their investigations.
I totally accept with the imaginations of Vishnu and if we observe the call record of Aarushi she used to get calls ,sms everyday up to late night,some times even at 1AM.But that particular day her lost call is at around 9PM on 15th night,after 1hour of the lost call she came home at 10PM.She received a gift from her parents at 11PM and she was so delighted after reeiving the gift but she din’t informed to any of her friends about that gift by using her mobile.She had a food at 11:30PM and went to sleep.It’s not true that somebody has taken her mobile and swictched it off so that she can not communicate with others or it’s charging is over.Aarushi was having pleanty of time to put her mobile for charging.It’s clear that she wantedly switched it off after receiving the lost call at 9PM and came home at 10PM and din’t show any interest to switched it on or put it for charging.
One important I want to remember all that in only one point both the police and CBI are coinciding that is the door of Aarushi was open on that night but both Mrs&Mr.Talwar are saying that they took the key from horizontal painting and opened the door of Aarushi.CBI also told that 2 to 3 people were moved in the house at the time of murder.I still wonder how come they know exactly even there was no CC cameras of any other evidences.Without using the keys nobody can open the door unless Aarushi want to open she can open it.If for a moment let us think that some of enimies of Talwars did this.But why Aarushi opened the door when somebody knocked the door as she knows that her parents din’t knock the door because they are having the key.Even if she open also after seeing the unknown persons she should fight and struggle with them but there is no such scene.I imagine that she opened the door,then the murder happened then murderers took the keys from Talwars room,locked the room and kept the keys in Talwars room.If we observe the medical test of Hemraj he din’t took any food on that night.He can have food after 11:30PM when everybody finished eating.This shows that he was in some tension and waiting for something after that he wanted to take food.That something may be after Aarushi’s friends will go went out from the house?????? .
June 14th, 2008 at 6:53 am
Reader,
That is the most reasonable perspective ever since all this started.
But unfortunately that still that does not quite explain, the krishna’s call (it was cutoff in a second) to a CBI cybercrime officer, just a day before!
And recently CBI is almost certainly saying that this is not done in a fit of rage but premeditated.
June 14th, 2008 at 7:29 am
JODHA – You make a very astute observation in your comparison of the reaction of Scarlett Keeling’s mother and that of the Talwars . In both cases salacious comments of the victims flew thick and fast . Nothwithstanding a fairly open hippie lifestyle , Scarlett’s mother was not prepared to leave any stone unturned in her determination to find her daughter’s killer and that remains the case today as she battles with the authorities to get justice for her daughter . n the Talwars case , we have exactly the opposite reaction . The contradictory statements and evasive replies by both parents , the speed with which they sought to conceal or contaminate the forensic evidence and the demeanour of the mother all reveal a strong desire to ensure that every stone is left unturned . This reaction comes despite the influence they exert in the right circles which , if they wanted , could have ensured a speedy investigation and one carried out to the right standards . The cases of Jessica Lall and Pryadarshini Mattoo too showed the desperation of the victims families to get justice for their loved ones . In Arushi’s case , the parents reactions are chilling to say the least . I also detect an attempt to deflect attention from themselves by a subtle reference to Arushi living a lifestyle that they did not entirely approve of as shown in the earlier part of the investigation i.e the comments made by the IG about the father finding Arushi in an ‘uncomfortable ” position with Hemraj . The IG for all his deficiencies could not have made up such a remark . The liklihood is that the idea was planted in his mind by something the parents said in an attempt to exonerate themselves . In other words , those remarks were self-serving From all that I have read so far , Arushi was a typical kid from an educated middle class background living a life that most children from a similar background can associate with . There was nothing unusual about her behaviour . Indeed , it is sad to read some of the comments being made on this site about her . Clearly the people making those value judments about Arushi are plainly illiterate or come from fairly backward backgrounds that simply cannot associate with Arushi’s world .
June 14th, 2008 at 8:57 am
According to rediff news Krishna told to CBI that Aarushi is innocent and she is not having any illicit relation with Hemraj.Based on his statements CBI gave clean chit to Aarushi.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:13 am
hi as one point I red that “Jeeva said that Hemraj called him at 5:30PM on Thursday. He told that his madam (Dr. Nupur Talwar) had instructed him not to go to the clinic, as per his normal routine, since Arushi was home alone.”
But I am thinking that at that time Aarushi was not at home she came home at 10PM.
Please Can anybody clear my doubt?
June 14th, 2008 at 9:20 am
I read that the girl was at home. The parents returned at night.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:28 am
hi Angie,
In the beginning of this article it’s there that she came home at 10PM.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:33 am
ya you are correct Angie her parents came at 10PM.I am mistaken.But when they came Aarushi was with them and had supper at 10:30PM with them.OK.Then why she switched off her mobile at 9:10PM only.Why she din’t used it to say friends about the gift she received??????before her parents return it was removed from her??????
June 14th, 2008 at 9:35 am
Hi all,
wait for some time CBI also interrogating a business man based in Noida.CBI will crack the case very soon
June 14th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Hi Angie ya her parents came at 10PM.Aarushi was with them up to 11:15.But she din’t used her mobile after the last call at 9:10PM.Before her parents return her mobile was removed from her?????
Can anybody body clear me about this mobile why she din’t used it after 9:10PM?or it’s battery is low even if battery is low she can put it for charging.Why she din’t made any calls to friends about the surprising gift she received?Any imagination from your end?
June 14th, 2008 at 9:52 am
That part about Aarushi’s cell phone was unclear. It was switched off or battery was low.
June 14th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
I refuse to belief it is the Parents. And I don’t think there was anything inappropriate between Dr.Anita Durani and Rajesh Talwar. Aarutshi being a 14 year old child might have added 1 and 1 as 11. The murderer is just taking undue advantage of this.
June 14th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Looks like every one wants to be a detective. They fail to understand that CBI is a professional organization and they are well trained to look at all angles than a common person. CBI never leaks out information and it is a common practice in UK and US to sometimes divert the attention of media in some other direction so that the real culprit can be catched.
In this case it looks like there are more things than what we all know. With a senior executive earning more than 12 to 15 crores Per annum, well connected to politicians and police involved in this case, there is something fishy. Did his money power ensure from the day one, that the basic investigative procedures were not followed and Rajesh Talwar unnecessarily implicated. In the interviews both Nupur and Rajesh seems to have been frightened. The powerful mastermind who acted as Rajesh’s friend had been involved in destruction of evidence as krishna said he instructed to clean Arushi’s room, remove the bedding and blankets and put it on neighbor’s terrace etc. Why should people believe the cops are sloppy. I think their action was well intended. Probably someone high up had a deal. CBI will certainly look at this too.
We can see all kinds of opinions and theories floating on the media and web. We cannot feel impatient. Since many big powers, money etc are involved in this case, it will take some more time to know who are the culprits. I am sure Rajesh and Nupur are innocent.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
I am curious . Why does this site ask people to vote on whether or not they think Krishna is guilty but not in respect of Dr Talwar ? Isn’t the issue being pre-judged ? And are there not a whole range of other people at whom one could point a finger ? Just an observation from an idle mind .
June 14th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
KODAI WILL U PLS ELABPRATE THE MEAQNING OF 1PLUS 11
June 14th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
The poll and voting are random. The person who is in the spotlight might get a poll. Who would you like to get a poll on?
June 14th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
hi! Indian woman ,here we all discussing and what must be the motive behind to kill that little flower like child’s and that of Hemaraj. It is quiet natural to know who murdered her for what? such curiousity is -within the 4 walls of the house -that too only family members n hemaraj only 4 members. Every human nature is to know what happened – no robbery, no unknown persons,with a short period of approximatly say 7 to 8 hours – what happened? May be if noida police acted soon we may not be here to discussing about her. so many loop holes – careless attitued of the Police-what they should have done earlier now CBI is doing after a month that too leisurely.
Now latest is After narciAnalyist test – took 7 hrs with 350 questions .he tols something about – Aarushi is very good girl , soft. But when we saw him while takne from Blr Airport some newsreports asked him about Dr.ANita N Dr.Rajesh she dint replied.
we saw the direct telecast in the news channel about a lady social worker from on 11th May as she was in Delhi with some work.She told – he came to her late in the evening told her about he is scared and mentioned – there is danger to his life and also some more persons, This was live telecast & that lady only spoke to channel. But she was in hurry to come back to Blr & she told him to meet her later.Today 3 Hours programme about Aarushi’s case.
June 14th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
# Tell me another one Says:
June 9th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Sick and tired of it , you are a hypocrite hypocrite as you would not be writing unless you feel involved in this . So cut the nonsense .
If you wrote this Message to me for what i wrote -then my reply to you .
Mr or Ms.whoever you-> your nickname suggests — Tell me on another– that you are curious about knowing many things.-that one or other news you want to listen about others – rite? But i have no write about all those things – until and unless you are writing about my personal -not a part of this forum subject.
I want to know how you come to know i am hypocrate? Am i so famous- so everyone know about me !!!!!!!!Strange!!! and what i wrote is like everyone guessing !!!!! in that what hyprocrate you find? may be you dont find it any thrill as it become old ?
Hypocrate =This word suits you better -not me. when you gone through this forum — so many things said & wrote about that 1 years old girl who even not reached age – to even dthink about all those things-where were you? As everyone said about their guesses & their opinion- i also scartched my head what must be the motive (you can ask me – who told you to scratch).As if you dont know for property so many things are happening from very rich too lowest leveIs it not happening in India?
As if i am the one going to introduce the -Property fight. It is not neccessary who have property – why they killed – i found no motive – so i guesses and shared my opinion. what is the fault? If you say that then i want to say -one of most richest family in the world- Ambani Brothers, Bajaj family , more over in UK -a family who made history producing species- Patak family— in your words – what it all mean?
Come to the reality – here no show is going on- serious about a child’s murder- If you even say i dont care who ever you are – it never affect me .
This is independant india – we have the rights to say our view.
i have not done any character assassination about Aarushi or her family as some persons did here-Just mentioned about Girl child – Family property- May be it doesnt give you a thrill – right mr.Tell me another one- –(-story
or news)when you dont have the guts to speak to those – you have no right using those words to me-because you are partial in this forum- Accepting some of those and saying some against.
But who cares ?????
June 15th, 2008 at 3:29 am
Dr Rajesh Talwar’s house have allegedly revealed that late on May 14 night, 40 sites were searched by a particular login. Most of these sites are associated with various drugs used for sedation, particularly those which do not have toxins in their composition. The person who searched these sites spent more time at these sites than what was spent at sites which featured drugs which had combinations of toxins in their composition.
June 15th, 2008 at 5:47 am
Can anybody provide me with the link that gives me details about arushi’s diary. where it was traced from and some details incorporated in the diary?
Does this diary belongs to arushi personally?
June 15th, 2008 at 6:55 am
In the news they are showing the knife. It is too big just to slit the front of the neck. If someone uses it then the complete neck will be cut open. I feel the murder weapon is a SCALPAL as they said in the begining. It is the doctor’s knife small but it is well sharp and can cut up to 8mm deep and 16mm long.
So, the knife shown is not true.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Angie – Thank you . Yes , a poll might be interesting . The question would need to be worded very carefully though so that no bias is suggested .
June 15th, 2008 at 11:25 am
reading below article….creates doubt in mind…was police involved in the murder plan aswell…y were (three) case-officers transferred?
June 15th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Jq,
Thanks for the link but the file has an error. We don’t paste links to private web sites. Official newspapers can be pasted sparingly. The content of private sites may be edited and changed anytime so we don’t link out.
It seems to be a normal practice for people to get transferred out because the superior made the decision. It does not imply wrong doing. Maybe the people or the work were mismatched so assistance was arranged to get replacements.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
“Oh-Lord”,
One poll is present but readers are unable to use it or prefer not to use it.
I’ll include some guide on using that soon. Thanks.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Angie,
It is on most of sites today. If you still wana read it…go to google and search : “Fact file of Noida double murder” and you will find ample of publishers with same information….datewise history…reading this it seems strange…y transfer of incharge case officer?
June 15th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Jq,
If you’re asking about the Noida police, it could be because they made assumptions on characters and were accused of committing character assassinations.
June 15th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Could be..Angie….but does “transferring job” teaches them the lesson? They should be re-trained or given hard time on doing such stupid acts including false character assassinations and also to those taking initial investigation very lightly. Strict steps should be taken …these useless directions wasted time and gave killers enough time to enjoy the attributes of wiping the proof!
June 15th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
To, all readers, sorry above comment is pasted by jq, by mistake wrote Angie…i m sorry angie….i repaste my comment here..
Could be..Angie….but does “transferring job” teaches them the lesson? They should be re-trained or given hard time on doing such stupid acts including false character assassinations and also to those taking initial investigation very lightly. Strict steps should be taken …these useless directions wasted time and gave killers enough time to enjoy the attributes of wiping the proof!
June 15th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
What is the latest news ?????
CBI denies transfer of its officers…they went on vacation….
CBI has strictly told the media not to write and announce false bias news…anyone doing so shall be strictly governed by the law against them CBI told….
June 15th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
confused,
That was old news that someone here commented some time back. The comment mentioned about vacations.
There are intelligence and counter-intelligence at work. Sooner or later, something might show up.
Those who know how the techniques work can keep to themselves because who knows who are the people watching the situation.
June 15th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
I cannot understand why Krishna , who may or may not have been present at the time of the murder, was subjected to a narco test but neither of the Talwars has as yet despite the fact that there is no dispute as to where they were that night ? I read that a narco test had been ruled out against Dr Talwar on account of his health . I understand he is asthmatic . In the Nithari case , Pandher underwent a narco test despite being severely diabetic , a condition far worse than being asthmatic . Nupur Talwar has given statements that are contradictory to those of Dr Talwar. She is a crucial witness in this case . What is the reasoning for not doing a narco test on her ? Any ideas ? Or is the CBI playing a ‘ wait and watch ‘ game ?
June 15th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I was watching NDTV yesterday and they had some details from the Noida police case file (I tuned in part way through, so I’m not sure what the source of the data was) indicating that Rajesh Talwar browsed Dentistry sites and his dentistry association email, then called the American Dentistry association to make a query. This was all around 11 p.m. Hardly seems the behaviour of a man preparing to commit a double murder.
June 15th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
it is better that cbi finds the culprit behind this case. it has left a fear psychosis in the minds of peop,le at noida. it is a small flat. two murders happen and rest of the two people do not know what haapened. unbelievable. let us hope the murderer is caught.
may god give peace to Aarushi’s soul.
June 15th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
hi guys just check out one program (i hope its repeated tommorow) it came on aajtak…
titled something like “aarushi ka sach”
2 guys enactedvery many points in a home
exactly similar to tht of aarushis’ as in its in d same society inch by inch same flat…
n looking at the entire facts dey told in tht
prigram even a 10 yr old kid can point out who
is the murderer…
till now even i had some doubts but nah
after seeing tht whole layout of the house …
m clear….
if any1 can check out the repeat tommorw please do
June 16th, 2008 at 3:42 am
Latest news is CBI today said her mother Dr Nupur Talwar too could be arrested even as a team intensified searches at their home.The agency conducted a third lie-detector test on Dr Nupur Talwar.A CBI official said Mrs Talwar could be arrested on the basis of her statements.
From the beginning it’s clear that parents are killers in this case but still I was hopping that they are clean because no parents of India do like this to their only one beautiful small daughter.But finally the case came to the situation that even mother will also be arrest for the preplanned murder of daughter.
Poor kid Aarushi who don’t know all this and was planing to give hand made painting to her dad on Fathers day(15th June08) yesterday.
June 16th, 2008 at 3:48 am
hi mehek,
Here we don’t have the aajtak channel transmission.Can you explain what they conclude in that program.Which point made you convinced in this mysterious murder case.Please paste your points that you compromised in that program.
June 16th, 2008 at 5:45 am
hi vishnu
yeah ok dey depicted the crime in exactly
similar type of flat u can say a neighbours flat
of same type ….
c when i used 2 hear dat distance btw aaruhsi room n parents room was very less i wasnt dat clear
but then they showed ..its just 4 feet
n its like u need just 2 steps to enter 4m aarushi
room 2 parents room
n its said her door was opend at time of murder
n dey even switched on the AC , n showed
even if AC is on u r bound 2 hear sounds from
aarushi room.
n dey showed in morning when Dr nupur got up
2 open door 2 maid she found door loked
she cud have gone thru hemrajs room n opned the door
but she dint do that Y?????
instead she botherd to serach for keys n throw
dem thru balcony.strange.
n dey said when she was going to open the door for maid how come she did not notice aarushis’
room which was opened (when aarushis room is normally closed)
c the channel dint directly say anything but
they were hinting at n internal home hand only
yaar c setup is such dat no 1 can come 4m outside.
June 16th, 2008 at 7:34 am
any news about the forensic examination of their laptops, any thing has come out????
June 16th, 2008 at 8:15 am
Pray for Angle face Arushi and Hemraj’s soul should rest in eternal peach!
I suggest the police should search the car that went to Haridwar to cremate Arushi, may be the weapon is hidden in the car.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:23 am
Ya, I saw the program and it looks like an internal home hand only or with the help of some one. Also looks like the Krishna’s room is too small and it was used by 4 people. He was the one to sleep at extreme end far away from the door. He cannot get out of the room by opening the door and for which he needs to wake up the one sleeping near to the door. I think Krishna’s involvement is in destruction of evidence the next day.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:57 am
but how come Mrs&Mr.Talwar,Mrs&Mr.Durrani with the help of Krishna,Raju and others will do sucha stupid preplanned murder in which all points are against to
them.What will that little kid will do for all these doctors?I still hope that the moral values of India are still alive so some guys did this for sensational news.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:04 am
I totaly agree with Aajtak above comments.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:36 am
major thing in this case is that, whether dr. did or not, we can celarly see he is trying to save himself with the help of the lawers. Orlese they are too mumb. This points them to be culprit. Second thing why they told 2.30 am as arushi’s death time at hardwar….
It is the dad…and they are failing in all the interogations too…….
when CBI will catch the mom also….
they have to tightly investigate still…..
June 16th, 2008 at 9:44 am
I think this murder is having some other motives. People wanted to get rid of Arushi and Hemaraj because they were aware of some thing (a major social crime). I think thats the reason mails were all deleted. May be the murders be done by some one else and Talwars are scared to speak up due to their involvement in the same or due to life threat or both. I think more people are involved.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:09 am
guys i think its accidental murder
dats y motive isnt clear
i meant aarushi murdered accidentally n hemraj
murdered 2 eliminate witness…
well we r all seeing dat the motive in dis case aint getting clear
i think dere wasnt a motive
c dis is wht i sthink mite hv happened
aarushi n her family ate dinner together
den she wnt 2 her room….
around 10.30 its said a courier came ,she gt her camera
now its said dat aarushi dies due 2 injuries on her head.
so now lets c
aarushi n her family cliked snaps if Dr nupur is 2 be beleived
den something went wrong ,maybe she cliked something which was nt 2 be cliked
or some fite happend btween her n her parents
den Dr talwar in the heat of the moment mite have banged her against d wall
now ….when dey realised she is dead dey gt scared n in
d meanwhile hemraj also mite have heard sounds so he came 2 chek n saw aarushi dead
n her parents around ….
he paniced n parents also paniked dat he saw dem … so 2 mk sure he
dosent tell any1 dey mite have killed him …
now dr talwar sliced aarushis’ neck “just to show some1 killed her ”
“but its clear she died out of head injures”
now the couple dragged hemrajs’ body on d terrace 2 hide it.
dey dint hide aarushi’s body ‘cos dey thot no1 wud ever doubt dat parents
killed thier owb daughter.
dey thot dey wud say tht hemraj killed her n ran off(which dey did)
n den later on dey wud dispose of hemrajs’ body (but unfortunately
dey wernt able 2 do it)
so i think its a case of aacidental murder
its like in a fite arushi gt likked by mistake den talwars dint know
wht 2 do so dey cooked up d rest.
June 16th, 2008 at 10:15 am
nope vishnu i dnt think so many people r involved
nt even krishna i think
i feel whtever happened tht nite ws accidental
n only nupur n dr rajesh know abt it
she was killed over a fite i think
rest was a cover up
June 16th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Hi mehek,
I appreciate your assumptions.For a moment let us think that this happened in a fit of anger.Why on 11th May Hemraj approached social service organization to inform about this? Who did the search for sedatives by a search engine on 14th? and we have to notice here that CBI concluding that this is a preplanned murder and not happened just like that in a fit of anger.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:53 am
and, the only people 100% present and could have known anything at all are mr & mrs talwars. nupur to go under narco? since rajesh talwar is unfit.. only way ahead as far as i can see.
June 16th, 2008 at 11:54 am
It is very clear that Arushi died becoming a victim towards certain anger…There is a topic to which they had a discussion and got so violent…accidentally the act happened by Dr.’s hand…there is someone else also but???? Who ????
No one is opening their mouth….
and Above all it is the scalpal the doctor’s knife…not the KHUKRI….
…………………………
June 16th, 2008 at 11:57 am
well CBI cud be wrong n also
now i think CBI is concentrating on
servants .
its said in some nithari case also
dey arrested servants whereas it was proved in
court tht accused is the owner.
who knows wht CBI is upto
June 16th, 2008 at 11:59 am
It can be a biggest racket the doctors are into and which HEMRAJ was aware of thus, he got eliminated in the night with the help of someone who came that night but since ARUSHI saw it she became the witness so she had to be silenced….
Doctors are into some very big racket…looks like….
involved people are all big shots…
June 16th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Yes I think so. They may be a part of a big racket or social crime where lot people involved. They had to silence Arushi and Hemraj for gettinng access to some thing. Was this the reason Krishna called CBI?. Talwars are helpless and need to keep mum as they are a part of the racket and have treats.
June 16th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
CBI’s first step should be to put Dr. father / mother both through NARCO test…they will speak..
Then their friends…
The man who told to clean all…MR. TAYAL…should go through NARCO….
picture will come up clearer….
June 16th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Any idea why the cops are not bringing the sniff dogs…
CBI can well use these dogs…they can sniff the murdered spot and give a good lead to where abouts of mobile and etc….
any suggestions…
June 16th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Some conflicting reports on whether Nupur is as suspect or not. TOI & Deccan saying she may be, NDTV & Zee saying she is not at this time.
What makes people think the Talwars were involved in some racket? Dr. Talwar seemed to be very much into his craft. I have a hard time finding anything to support that they were anything other than a normal family. Busy, yes, as medical professionals are, but happy and had close family near them.
June 16th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Racket word comes up as they are busy hiding some thing.
husband and wife’s story differ. Most of the questions they keep unanswered.
They are not eager to find the culprit..
Cant see any sad feelings in their face at any time…SORRY…
June 16th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Actually police should get the sniff dogs on the first day,but Mr.Talwar din’t allow police to search the house for clues,both the parents were crying and told to the police Hemraj is the murderer so escaped and his mobile is also switched off,Mr.Talwar also asked the police to getout of the house and search for Hemraj.Poor police they din’t got the idea that parents also kill their only one sweet daughter whose birth day is in next week.So police blindly believed the parents and were busy in search of Hemraj by the time Mrs&Mr.Talwar went to Haridwar for final rites of Aarushi and returned and cleaned the Aarushi room and eliminated all the clues.
June 16th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
CBI has to focus on Dr. Rajesh, Nupur and their friend and Dinesh Talwar. All to go through NARCO test…big clue will come out..
and The knife used is a scalpal not the big weapon. We are also not idiots. big weapon will cut the neck totally. small weapon is used.
But now the set up looks toooooooooooooo fishy…
June 16th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
It is true that they could have been involved in something that eventually endangered their daughters life. If so, then they will keep mum as long as they think there is a chance to get off the hook. If no chance, when faced with murder charges in the rarest of rare crimes, maybe they will talk. On the other hand, if they don’t have any ‘blood on their hands’ so to speak, then why are there contradictions in their statements to Police and CBI about what happened that night which is now even more clear after the third lie detector test on Dr. Nupur Talwar?
June 16th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Latest is CBI conformed Krishna is involved in these murders.CBI not yet confirmed about Mrs.Talwar.CBI also doubting on neighbors servant involvement in killings.police in their investigations told about this scalpel now after 16days CBI is also confirming that it is scalpel not Kurkhi.But the sad thing motive of murder is not clear even after all lie detector,Narco and Brain mappings.some department is also trying to
retrieve the photos taken on that night and are deleted from the digital camera.
I really wonder how strong their brains are they are not reveling anything.This is definitely done by Mrs&Mr.Talwar.
June 16th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
If CBI doesn’t want to leave any stone unturned then why they are not doing narco test on Talwar couple, friend Durrani.It looks like talwars have links with influential people and are able to protect themselves.If they are clean they shud volunteer to take the test and prove their innocence and allow the investigations to go in right direction.ideally their prime interest shud be to get justice for their daughter and family.it is surprising that sniffer dogs are not yet used and metal detector is brought only after suggestion from someone in public.
June 16th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Opinions will differ – many (including myself) saw a grief-stricken mother when they saw the first NDTV interview with Nupur Talwar, but many saw otherwise. From my reading, it’s not like the parents booted the police out of their flat on the morning of the murder (as if they could have), but Hemraj was the obvious first suspect since Aarushi was dead and he couldn’t be found. But I wasn’t there. I really don’t know if the Talwars did it or not. There’s certainly reason for suspicion (they were in the house at the time, the quick cremation, some differences in their statements) but there’s also reasons to doubt their involvement (no motive, no evidence, good family relations, no history of trouble, no odd behaviour leading up to the murders).
June 16th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
What police & what investigation? The police in India is too busy worrying about collecting their haftas and squeezing the drivers for traffic violations.
Even the CBI, why do they have to go back to the scene of thr crime again & again for more evidence, why couldn’t they seek and collect all evidence in one single trip? They do not know what they are looking for.
Moreoevr, their entire investigation is based on the ‘killer’, whoever that might be, admitting that he /she is the killer. Whatever happened to independent police work?
The level of their incompetence is simply pathetic.
June 16th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
CLUE :
CLUE :
Bro – You are right on track ! Reaaaaly fishy ! 26 photos deleted on digital camera . Internet browsing history deleted . 40 internet sites for sedatives that leave no traces visited on 14th May ! Boy ! Dr T was a busy man that night !Only problem is he miscalculated on how big this case will become . Bet he’s kicking himself for asking for a CBI investigation . Bet he’d give his molars / incisors for Noida police and IG Gurdarshan Singh ! His fillings for a dumb copper ! My heart bleeds for him !
June 16th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Yesterday I killed a lizard and I felt heck guitly..poor defenseless creature. had absolutely no defense to fight me..It was very disturbing for me..So how can a father kill his own daughter..a child whom he has braught up in his own arms with love..It is impossible. No matter how much threat she was. He cant kill with his own hands..Contract killing is a different issue..
June 16th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Some how I feel Aajtak update view may a strong possibility. In such a case they may be killed with Talwars locked in room /drugged or at Kinfe tip.
June 16th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
since its not a rage murder case..it was preplanned. How can someone murder in his own house,when you know that police will come because dead bodies are lying? how was Dr Talwar so sure that he would manage the police not to climb up the stairs. It was just a chance that they didnt climb up the stairs..How can a murderer leave so many things to chance ? Please use your brains folks
That can only happen when some unconcerned came,executed his preplanned killings and ran without caring for dead bodies. There was no noise because both victims were sedated
If I were to murder I would not leave a single trail, forget dead bodies lying around. Because what will you tell police ?
And you need guts to commit murder when you have no past history of commiting murders. Dr Talwar never commited murder before. And this was not a rage murder.
June 16th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
isnt it worth wondering why the talwars themselves asked for a cbi enquiry?
June 16th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
But Mehek thn why they had 2 erase di pictures frm di camera?!?
See, as per my instincts, its a simple case of WIFESWAPPING. wht must hv happened is both the couples were out 2gthr. while returnin home dr anita came alongvd dr talwar nd dr nupur stayed back vd mr durrani. As dr talwar said tht he forgot locking Aarushi’s room tht fateful nite. it suggests Aarushi must hv caught thm red nd as she already had a camera, she took their pics, in the process, rajesh talwar nd anita durrani noticed her nd must hv ran after her. Asa she reaches her room they banged her with whtever they cld lay hands at nd she, being a frail nd young child, died immediately. by tht time hemraj also must hv heard of Aarushi’s shouts nd came running nd saw the 2 hitting her nd he too was banged in similar way. Realising the truth, they hd decided to make it looklike murder. Hence, they both being professional doctors, hd slit their necks using di scalpel. then they must hv decided to call upon nupur nd mr durrani, so they took ONE DAY to plan their CODE OF CONDUCT nd meanwhile also took help of Krishna nd durrani’s servant to remove evidences forcefully.
Thts the reason they didn’t even call di police nd cremated her w’out even takin a single sec’. Wht kindda parents they were? they lost their only child, di one born after 11 yrs of marriage, they shld hv almost died after seeing their bundle of joy lying in pool of blood with her throat slit to death. why they didn’t even shed a tear so far. all 4 talwars nd durranis look so cold-blooded nd cool. they do look under pressure? but wht it cld b, probably jus tht their truth vl come in front of others, tho it is already at any cost knwn 2 all. what fear they cld hv had from a 14 yr old child?!? jus imgine. who cld benefitted by erasing pics frm her camera? only di killers, nd dr talwar nd dr anita r di actual killers, nupur nd di rest of them all r supportin them. i jus dont undrstand hw cld they call it n Honor killing? whr’s their honor now? r they still same respected ppl of this society? nd hw come a Father can raise a finger at his own daughter to save his skin? nd if he found out tht both di victims were close ro this extent, why he nvr thot of replacing Hemraj?
thr r hell lotta q’tions, why they locked her every nite? was she such a brat, hw cld he do tht to such n Angel. Oh God, it seems they carry out some illegal activities at home so they hd to hid it frm aarushi. Nyways, wht a cruel murder, cruel parents, nd aunts, uncles arnd her. all of them r 2gether, strange, no one from her family is vd her, nana nani, dada dadi, mausi, mama, bua, none of them.
June 16th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
As dr nupur ws vd mr durrani, she doesnt knw exact events, hence she is keeping mum. if u rem’ber di v nxt day aftr 16th (date which they had told abt di murder), dr anita ws holding her tight frm her shoulders, nd dr nupur lookd undr heavy sedatives, she cld utter v few wrds, anyone cld mk it out tht b4 makin tht statemnt, she hd been v well brain-washed abt wht to say nd hw much to say.
anothr thing, dr anita is everywhr vd them, at home, outside their home, in singapore, WHY? we all hv close frnds, family frnds, yes, but do v go out or share things like they were doin?
also, 3 glasses found in hemraj’ room. why only one glass hs finger prints (ie of hemraj) wht abt othr 2 glasses? nothing ‘coz they hd planted them in his room to say tht he ws drunk nd ws visited by his associates-Krishna nd all, jus to mislead di police.
Why they didnt logde FIR, Hd she been my child nd murdered, i wld hv shouted my heart out to get hold of killers. look at them, they r so cool, as if she wsnt their daughter nd they r nt at all disturbed by getting her killed.
June 16th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
latest is dat dey found krishnas’ fingerprints
in aarushis’ bathroom etc
guys isnt it a wonder dat after so many days dey
r still able 2 find fingerprints
n even if dey found so wht
krishna used 2 go dere n i think
after the murder he also was asked 2 clean aarushi
room ..so after tht he must have washed his hands in her bathroom so whts d big deal
June 16th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
hi! latest upto date from news channel.
1.Narco test have been conducted on Dr.Nupur & Dr.Anita on 13June& found that Dr.Nupur’s version is entirely differnt from Dr.Ramesh Talwar.
2.Neibours Servant Vijay Introgated.
3.Krishna’s finger prints found at Aarushi’s Bathroon.
4.Krishna come to Dr.Talwar’s house Not through the Main entrance but crossing over the roof tops of all the houses!!!!!!!!!!!
5.Aarushi’s Birthday present digital camera- captured 23 pictures all were deleted except 5 photos of Aarushi.
6.Camera sent to Hydrabad forensic labratory to recover the deleted photos and CBI received the Report.
7 Main questions are ? who were others present on that day & who deleted the photos & why?
This is from news channel
what kind of parents they are? why they are not telling what happened on that day & whom they are protecting/
Is that person or persons are more important than their only daughter? what is her fault- born to this kind of parents?
Our neighbours daughter aged 12 questioned me why Aarushi’s mother- shows no sign of sorrow or crying of losing of her only daughter.
Aarushi’s murder affected so many children and they want to know who ,why to that little girl??
June 16th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Mr.Talwar, Next time when Dr.Talwars will ask your suggestion before murdering any one!!!!!!!!!!.This Time they never met you so they made a mistake.(if they are the real Culprit)ok. what kind of justification you giving?
CBI Told it is well Planned murder not at spur of the moment.
Are you supporting NOIDA Police for their lapses?
when TV channel broadcast 3 hrs programme in memory of Aarushi as it is a month since her death. A Private detective who visited the same day as police -noticed everything which Noida Police did not. He told that what all he saw and about Nupur & Rajesh . His final findings are that there is more such things which he can not say as it is Police’s duty & Drs.Talwar are hiding so many things.
How can be a responsible police personals are so much irresponsible in a murder case?
NOIDA POLICE -Mentality must be like this——–
They might have thought & took it very casually -like what is there -one more murder-? who will ask us ? and who will run behind a murderer? Any way dead persons wont come back – so why should we take it seriously???????–
But they never expected that Aarushi & Hemaraj cas